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RE: Fucking Cops
December 16, 2014 at 9:03 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 8:58 pm)psychoslice Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 8:54 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: Hold them accountable for their actions. Fire them when they fuck up. Try them just like any other citizen when they apparently commit a crime. Why is that so much to ask?
That's already being done, you don't want to believe that because your mind is already made up and you probably hate cops, the very people you would run to when your life is threatened.
If you read many of the stories it seems many who do break the laws aren't being held accountable.
Asking for the cases, many of which Min has clearly illustrated here, to actually be treated and investigated properly is not hatred, despite how some people would like to paint such things.
They use the "hater" name as a way of silencing those who don't agree with them.
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RE: Fucking Cops
December 16, 2014 at 9:32 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 8:50 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Ok you know it all, so what should we do ?. Enforce the law. The offer who killed Eric Garner did so with a choke-hold that NYC officers have been forbidden from using. Which means he was not following protocol and a man is dead, yet he will not answer for it. If an officer injures or kills a person because he did not follow proper procedure, he should be punished. You don't need to be a know-it-all to understand the importance of making sure that the people who enforce the law are obeying it themselves.
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RE: Fucking Cops
December 16, 2014 at 9:39 pm
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(December 16, 2014 at 9:03 pm)Beccs Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 8:58 pm)psychoslice Wrote: That's already being done, you don't want to believe that because your mind is already made up and you probably hate cops, the very people you would run to when your life is threatened.
If you read many of the stories it seems many who do break the laws aren't being held accountable.
Asking for the cases, many of which Min has clearly illustrated here, to actually be treated and investigated properly is not hatred, despite how some people would like to paint such things.
They use the "hater" name as a way of silencing those who don't agree with them.
Don't psychoanalyse me, and how do you know they haven't been dealt with properly, do you know all the details ?.
(December 16, 2014 at 9:32 pm)Tonus Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 8:50 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Ok you know it all, so what should we do ?. Enforce the law. The offer who killed Eric Garner did so with a choke-hold that NYC officers have been forbidden from using. Which means he was not following protocol and a man is dead, yet he will not answer for it. If an officer injures or kills a person because he did not follow proper procedure, he should be punished. You don't need to be a know-it-all to understand the importance of making sure that the people who enforce the law are obeying it themselves.
I believe they are doing the right thing, its just that there is more to it than a black and white solution, and you wouldn't know all the fine details.
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RE: Fucking Cops
December 16, 2014 at 9:43 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 9:39 pm)psychoslice Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 9:03 pm)Beccs Wrote: If you read many of the stories it seems many who do break the laws aren't being held accountable.
Asking for the cases, many of which Min has clearly illustrated here, to actually be treated and investigated properly is not hatred, despite how some people would like to paint such things.
They use the "hater" name as a way of silencing those who don't agree with them.
Don't psychoanalyse me, and how do you know they haven't been dealt with properly, do you know all the details ?.
Son, if I was psychoanalysing you, you'd know it. It would be far more than just a few lines.
We don't know how many of the cases have been properly investigated, but we can see from some of the recent ones that the investigation appears to be woefully inadequate.
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RE: Fucking Cops
December 16, 2014 at 9:54 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 9:43 pm)Beccs Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 9:39 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Don't psychoanalyse me, and how do you know they haven't been dealt with properly, do you know all the details ?.
Son, if I was psychoanalysing you, you'd know it. It would be far more than just a few lines.
We don't know how many of the cases have been properly investigated, but we can see from some of the recent ones that the investigation appears to be woefully inadequate.
that the investigation appears to be woefully inadequate
I'm pretty good at psychoanalysing also........yes that's the key word, "appears".
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RE: Fucking Cops
December 16, 2014 at 10:00 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 9:54 pm)psychoslice Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 9:43 pm)Beccs Wrote: Son, if I was psychoanalysing you, you'd know it. It would be far more than just a few lines.
We don't know how many of the cases have been properly investigated, but we can see from some of the recent ones that the investigation appears to be woefully inadequate.
that the investigation appears to be woefully inadequate
I'm pretty good at psychoanalysing also........yes that's the key word, "appears".
Let's ignore where I said if I was psychoanalysing you, you'd know and then imply that I was doing so again.
Good move.
The case, FOR INSTANCE, where a New York city cop applied an illegal choke hold on a man, ON VIDEO, but will not face charges. That does not *appear* inadequately investigated, that IS inadequately investigated AND ignoring evidence of a crime.
Yeah, the majority of cops do an awesome job. That doesn't mean that those who break the law shouldn't be held accountable.
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RE: Fucking Cops
December 16, 2014 at 10:07 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 10:00 pm)Beccs Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 9:54 pm)psychoslice Wrote: that the investigation appears to be woefully inadequate
I'm pretty good at psychoanalysing also........yes that's the key word, "appears".
Let's ignore where I said if I was psychoanalysing you, you'd know and then imply that I was doing so again.
Good move.
The case, FOR INSTANCE, where a New York city cop applied an illegal choke hold on a man, ON VIDEO, but will not face charges. That does not *appear* inadequately investigated, that IS inadequately investigated AND ignoring evidence of a crime.
Yeah, the majority of cops do an awesome job. That doesn't mean that those who break the law shouldn't be held accountable.
Yeah, the majority of cops do an awesome job. That doesn't mean that those who break the law shouldn't be held accountable.
Yep I can certainly agree with that.
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RE: Fucking Cops
December 17, 2014 at 1:33 am
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Quote:That's already being done,
The fuck it is. That is the problem.
And here is another hero in blue for you to defend.
Speeding? This requires pulling a gun? No wonder the Cleveland cops are under a DOJ watch. They deserve it.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/cleve...pregnancy/
Quote:Cleveland cop pulls gun on man speeding home to help with wife’s high-risk pregnancy
I mean fuck...he was 13 mph over the speed limit.
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RE: Fucking Cops
December 17, 2014 at 2:52 am
(December 17, 2014 at 1:33 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:That's already being done,
The fuck it is. That is the problem.
And here is another hero in blue for you to defend.
Speeding? This requires pulling a gun? No wonder the Cleveland cops are under a DOJ watch. They deserve it.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/cleve...pregnancy/
Quote:Cleveland cop pulls gun on man speeding home to help with wife’s high-risk pregnancy
I mean fuck...he was 13 mph over the speed limit.
I hope you can get over your hatred for cops, one day you will need them, yea yea.
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RE: Fucking Cops
December 17, 2014 at 6:07 pm
Yeah, yeah.
Go peddle your bullshit to this guy.
Quote: A 61-year-old man was shot to death by
police while his wife was handcuffed in another room during a drug
raid on the wrong house.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475
I ain't buying it.
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