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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 29, 2014 at 3:59 pm
(December 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm)abaris Wrote: Oh sure, good ol' sky daddy pulling a dominatrix. More like Bugs Bunny spanking baby Finster.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 29, 2014 at 4:00 pm
(December 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm)Spooky Wrote: I'm somewhat sad no theists have answered. I am still curious as to what keeps an otherwise sane adult "believing".
I hate that too
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 29, 2014 at 4:00 pm
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(December 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm)Spooky Wrote: I'm somewhat sad no theists have answered. I am still curious as to what keeps an otherwise sane adult "believing".
Religious indoctrination upon children. If it was illegal to do this to minors then religion would be nearly gone within a few generations.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 29, 2014 at 5:47 pm
(December 29, 2014 at 1:58 pm)Spooky Wrote: (December 29, 2014 at 12:16 pm)Alex K Wrote: Convert to what exactly, Spooky?
Any random mainstream monotheistic religion.
No way, those are all obviously made up.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 29, 2014 at 6:52 pm
I'm pretty much a closet atheist. My family would rather laugh and have good conversation about anything other than religion, politics, and Elvis. So ignoring my atheism is pretty easy. It just doesn't come up. I could probably convert to some religion and go through the motions for the right person, if she was like my version of a solid 10. I'm only human! Of course, I would probably find myself in more situations where I would have to carry on religious conversation. I'd break down at some point and ruin the relationship. But, the question is "what will it take to convert me", so that's really the only thing I could come up with, some practical technicality to appease the in-laws, perhaps.
As far as believing any of the horse shit- nope, can't happen.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 29, 2014 at 7:51 pm
What would make me believe? A good start would be god eliminating disease, illness, and disability in the blink of an eye. I still wouldn't immediately say, "Yup, that's god alright," but it'd certainly get my attention. We can move on from there.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 29, 2014 at 9:21 pm
(December 29, 2014 at 7:51 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: What would make me believe? A good start would be god eliminating disease, illness, and disability in the blink of an eye. I still wouldn't immediately say, "Yup, that's god alright," but it'd certainly get my attention. We can move on from there.
But god is lazy remember.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 29, 2014 at 10:41 pm
(December 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm)Spooky Wrote: I'm somewhat sad no theists have answered. I am still curious as to what keeps an otherwise sane adult "believing".
Repetition and brow beating. Death threats and making an example of others if the others fail.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 29, 2014 at 10:58 pm
(December 29, 2014 at 11:43 am)Spooky Wrote: To any religion? Short of god himself descending from heaven in front of you (even hardcore believers aren't holding their breath).
For myself I'd say god has his/her work cut out. It would probably require altering my ability to exercise free will. Most religions have too many hypocritical practices and texts for me to buy into the bs.
There is a further question if you're a theist. We'll give your intelligence the benifet of the doubt and ask why you still believe with all the evidence against the bible/torah/whatever?
With all the "proof" and "case" threads going on that are either trolls or actually trying convert a few of us, I'm curious.
I'm perfectly willing to compromise my views for cold hard cash.
I'd convert to Christianity for about £6 Million.
MM
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 29, 2014 at 11:13 pm
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(December 29, 2014 at 10:41 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (December 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm)Spooky Wrote: I'm somewhat sad no theists have answered. I am still curious as to what keeps an otherwise sane adult "believing".
Repetition and brow beating. Death threats and making an example of others if the others fail.
Yeah, but when you're old enough you know better. It's the childhood brainwash that plants the seed. Eliminate that and the nightmare is over.
(December 29, 2014 at 10:58 pm)ManMachine Wrote: (December 29, 2014 at 11:43 am)Spooky Wrote: To any religion? Short of god himself descending from heaven in front of you (even hardcore believers aren't holding their breath).
For myself I'd say god has his/her work cut out. It would probably require altering my ability to exercise free will. Most religions have too many hypocritical practices and texts for me to buy into the bs.
There is a further question if you're a theist. We'll give your intelligence the benifet of the doubt and ask why you still believe with all the evidence against the bible/torah/whatever?
With all the "proof" and "case" threads going on that are either trolls or actually trying convert a few of us, I'm curious.
I'm perfectly willing to compromise my views for cold hard cash.
I'd convert to Christianity for about £6 Million.
MM
Pick a better religion and I will fold for 6mil. There is nothing that could make me fold for the Jesus character. Dull forgery.
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