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Can you make a God claim?
RE: Can you make a God claim?
(January 8, 2015 at 5:06 pm)LostLocke Wrote: If your mind is that altered, how can you even be sure it'll be 'you' up there?
Maybe 'you' as you know 'you' won't even exist at that point.

We will know who we are, we will always remember what Christ did for us, if we did not remember then Christ would have died for nothing.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
(January 8, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: Okay, but you'll be missing out on the greatest of life, with the greatest Life of all.

GC

Why didn't Yahweh just create Heaven with the people/souls he wanted there in the first place?

Why did he create this entire universe (over 100 billion galaxies, each with over 100 billion stars and untold number of planets), just so one of these untold number of planets can be a 'soul filter' to see who gets to be in Heaven?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
(January 8, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: But, like the saved you will receive another life, guaranteed to be much worse than this one or any you could imagine.

GC

I'm always amazed at your god concept. You don't even realize, you're describing a petty child or an angry old man threatening you with his walking stick.
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
(January 8, 2015 at 5:10 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(January 8, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: But, like the saved you will receive another life, guaranteed to be much worse than this one or any you could imagine.

GC
Again with the threats..

You can keep saying that over and over, but I don't believe you, and it doesn't impact the quality of this life.

Why do you need a god to threaten you? i never got that he threatens you will eternal hell fire and says love me because you are a sinner and a piece of shit. So you have god gc who calls you a sinner and piece of shit and threatens you if you don't love your going to hell.... and if you love me and my child jesus and the holy ghost what ever you can go to heaven... i don't know about that.... that is grade a mental abuse from a damn book. Which you believe is gods word so god is mentally abusing you into loving him and not of your own free will you are forced to love him you just have a one track mind GC people cannot always be like that.
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
(January 8, 2015 at 5:10 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(January 8, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: But, like the saved you will receive another life, guaranteed to be much worse than this one or any you could imagine.

GC
Again with the threats..

You can keep saying that over and over, but I don't believe you, and it doesn't impact the quality of this life.

I can't make threats to you, you already said you were going to forgo heaven, so the only alternative for your rejection is hell, you've said all this. All I'm doing is supplying you with the facts about hell.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
(January 8, 2015 at 5:15 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(January 8, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: Okay, but you'll be missing out on the greatest of life, with the greatest Life of all.

GC

Why didn't Yahweh just create Heaven with the people/souls he wanted there in the first place?

Why did he create this entire universe (over 100 billion galaxies, each with over 100 billion stars and untold number of planets), just so one of these untold number of planets can be a 'soul filter' to see who gets to be in Heaven?

Precisely. What is the point?
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
(January 8, 2015 at 5:19 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(January 8, 2015 at 5:10 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Again with the threats..

You can keep saying that over and over, but I don't believe you, and it doesn't impact the quality of this life.

I can't make threats to you, you already said you were going to forgo heaven, so the only alternative for your rejection is hell, you've said all this. All I'm doing is supplying you with the facts about hell.

GC

And you're also gonna join me, seeing as your haven't accepted that there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
(January 8, 2015 at 5:15 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(January 8, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: Okay, but you'll be missing out on the greatest of life, with the greatest Life of all.

GC

Why didn't Yahweh just create Heaven with the people/souls he wanted there in the first place?

Why did he create this entire universe (over 100 billion galaxies, each with over 100 billion stars and untold number of planets), just so one of these untold number of planets can be a 'soul filter' to see who gets to be in Heaven?

That's why you do not understand Christianity, you think it's all about getting into heaven, you're sorely wrong. The creation of the universe was for God to enjoy now and the new one will be for all the saved. Also the universe and it's immensity is a witness to God in the past and now.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
(January 8, 2015 at 5:21 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: And you're also gonna join me, seeing as your haven't accepted that there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his profit.

If not intentional, then nice typo.

(January 8, 2015 at 5:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: That's why you do not understand Christianity, you think it's all about getting into heaven, you're sorely wrong. The creation of the universe was for God to enjoy now and the new one will be for all the saved. Also the universe and it's immensity is a witness to God in the past and now.

GC

No, I put it to you, that you don't understand christianity. You're speaking from a very narrow literal view and neither catholics nor mainstream protestants agree with you.
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
(January 8, 2015 at 5:07 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Haha, holy shit Strider I didn't think you'd actually call it that well.

(January 8, 2015 at 5:01 pm)Strider Wrote: In before the "everybody-in-heaven-is-now-your-family" post.
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It seemed like the most cliched thing to say so it became a statistical certainty at that point.
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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