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RE: Going to church
August 10, 2010 at 5:58 pm
(August 10, 2010 at 4:47 pm)Nitsuj Wrote: I don't know...I'm not as brave as him...
Well, if it were me, I would proudly say that I'm not going into the chapel and listen to drivel. And if that earns me detention, so be it! I would then spend my time in detention conspicuously reading "The God Delusion" or "God is Not Great".
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RE: Going to church
August 10, 2010 at 6:03 pm
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RE: Going to church
August 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm
(This post was last modified: August 10, 2010 at 10:16 pm by RAD.)
Quote:skeptics rip xtianity apart BECAUSE they have tried it and found it wanting.....dumb bloody xtian!!
Really? Prove it.
When did you last speak in tongues or excercise one of the 9 gifts Paul mentions?
Without looking it up, what is the "wedding garment" in Mt 22 parable?
What is imputed righteousness?
When you believed in Jesus, did rivers of living water flow out of your innermost being as he promised? (If so please describe your experience for us)
What sort of natural works or change in behavior did you have which might have proved your faith was real? Did you visit orphans and widows?
Or, since not all sincere Christians have mucany spiritual gifts or power in their lives (due to going to ungifted, power-free churches) just give a testimony that shows you were actually converted. "I was raised in church" is completely meaningless, and actually explains why you would NOT have been converted.
Personally I have only met one agnostic who convinced me, via a testimony, that he was once a Christian. Perhaps you or someone else will be #2.
(August 10, 2010 at 6:03 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: (August 10, 2010 at 2:58 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (August 10, 2010 at 2:01 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: Our Roman Catholic church had nice pictures on the walls, I could look at the details for hours. I was a bit spoiled as our church was an exact scale replica of St. Peters cathedral of Rome.
To what scale?
Does that mean you sat on itty bitty chairs, looking at an itty bitty altar?
I've got it you live in a community of midgits!
Scale is 1:3 of the original. And that is still ridiculously big and can seat thousands.
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Did they ever have a meeting remotely like what Paul describes in 1 Cor chapters 12-14?
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RE: Going to church
August 11, 2010 at 2:47 am
(August 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm)RAD Wrote: Quote:skeptics rip xtianity apart BECAUSE they have tried it and found it wanting.....dumb bloody xtian!!
Really? Prove it.
Why?? And to YOU?? What purpose will that serve???
You don't understand...atheists DON'T NEED OTHERS to support their beliefs. It is just nice to find the 'community' of like minded persons...not unlike your church thingy...it's more an evolutionary social imperative, is my take on it.
(August 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm)RAD Wrote: When did you last speak in tongues or excercise one of the 9 gifts Paul mentions?
Last week actually. It's called Language lessons ...silly boy!! Paul didn't get out much I don't think.
(August 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm)RAD Wrote: Without looking it up, what is the "wedding garment" in Mt 22 parable?
What has a mythical "hearts clothing" got to do with anything?? Sounds like you really need a little lie down mate. Either that or stop confussing Celtic practices with xtianity
(August 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm)RAD Wrote: What is imputed righteousness?
Sorry? Is that, that a lutheran thing?? (yeah had to look that one up)
(August 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm)RAD Wrote: When you believed in Jesus, did rivers of living water flow out of your innermost being as he promised? (If so please describe your experience for us)
No. can't describe something that didn't happen. What you might be describing here is an orgasm mate.
(August 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm)RAD Wrote: What sort of natural works or change in behavior did you have which might have proved your faith was real? Did you visit orphans and widows?
Idiot! I grew up in the poor side of town...orphans and widows were neighbours......there there...I just hope YOU don't end up in that situation...
(August 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm)RAD Wrote: Or, since not all sincere Christians have mucany spiritual gifts or power in their lives (due to going to ungifted, power-free churches) just give a testimony that shows you were actually converted. "I was raised in church" is completely meaningless, and actually explains why you would NOT have been converted.
What is a mucany???
Converted to atheism??? Never happened.
Woke up to just what the Abrahamic religions are REALLY all about??? yes THAT happened
(August 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm)RAD Wrote: Personally I have only met one agnostic who convinced me, via a testimony, that he was once a Christian. Perhaps you or someone else will be #2.
Again...what makes YOU so special that Your opinion matters to me??
But thanks for the painful trip down memory lane and proving once again just how cruel xtians really are....where you fapping whilst reading this??
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RE: Going to church
August 11, 2010 at 2:52 am
Would it count if I had built or purchased a church to live in it like a home?
Just like what happened on the Simpsons in that one episode where that happened.
If I ever had the money, I would seriously consider doing that, especially if I can get architecture like in RAD's post and I could design my own stained glass windows. Though I'm sure that would guarentee that I could never date a theist again. 
Well, it was a good idea while it lasted.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
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RE: Going to church
August 11, 2010 at 2:00 pm
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2010 at 2:00 pm by Nitsuj.)
You mean the episode Pray Anything? I'm a HUGE Simpsons fan, and am a member on nohomers.net. Mentioning the Simpsons gets my heart pounding. 
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RE: Going to church
August 11, 2010 at 2:07 pm
(August 10, 2010 at 6:03 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: (August 10, 2010 at 2:58 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (August 10, 2010 at 2:01 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: Our Roman Catholic church had nice pictures on the walls, I could look at the details for hours. I was a bit spoiled as our church was an exact scale replica of St. Peters cathedral of Rome.
To what scale?
Does that mean you sat on itty bitty chairs, looking at an itty bitty altar?
I've got it you live in a community of midgits!
Scale is 1:3 of the original. And that is still ridiculously big and can seat thousands.
That is one pretty church.
Not like the concrete monstrosity my mum uses, we have a lot of churches of concrete round here thanks to the germans trying to bomb Portsmouth and missing.
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RE: Going to church
August 11, 2010 at 2:27 pm
(August 10, 2010 at 1:53 pm)Nitsuj Wrote: I don't really know where else to post this... Okay, so the school I'm going to has a little chapel inside it, and during homeroom on Fridays, some teachers will take their kids to mass. Most teachers will go every few Fridays, and some teachers will bring their class only one Friday a month. It's just my luck that I had to get the one teacher that goes to mass EVERY F***ING FRIDAY. (I know this because my dad teaches there) How will I survive this? Sorry if I just sound like I'm complaining, but I'm serious, does anyone have any ideas on how to pass the time?
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RE: Going to church
August 11, 2010 at 3:08 pm
(August 11, 2010 at 2:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Eat beans and fart a lot.
I think he wants to devote his time to not committing crimes against humanity.
Seriously, nothing says "I'm about to commit a war crime" like "I'm going to Taco Bell."
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
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RE: Going to church
August 11, 2010 at 10:15 pm
(August 11, 2010 at 2:47 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: But thanks for the painful trip down memory lane and proving once again just how cruel xtians really are....where you fapping whilst reading this??
Heh. Now we know the real reason you want to "rip up" Christianity.
We are so terribly cruel as to ask for evidence that you tried it, as claimed, and would have settled for a testimony.
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