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Seamus (I don't know if he has the same nick on here) from the Atheist foundation of Australia website mentioned in passing he was on here, so I decided to join.

Let me introduce myself, I am a 27-year-old guy from provincial Victoria*. I am from a non-religious background and consider myself Agnostic, while I don't believe in god/s, however I regard my lack of a belief in a god or higher is just another belief system. Although I am not a permanent agnostic, if there was clear scientific evidence for god/s not existing, I could say definitely god does not exist, rather than I believe god does not exist. In the past I have never thought deeply about my lack of a belief in god/s.

A bit about my life and how it shaped me, well I was raised by my avowedly atheist mother from age 4-13, then I moved with my dad and his then wife who subscribed to various new age stuff (including belief in Aliens visiting Earth). That experience affected me to the extent, I was always looking at Christianity from the position of an outsider and also I developed a solidly rationalistic, skeptical mindset.

Being open-minded and freethinking made me open in hearing about the ideas the Christians were preaching about. For a long time my main contact with Christians were with that of the liberal variety, I generally found them an all right lot and not terribly dogmatic. Since I have been at university for the last couple of years or so, I got to meet evangelical Christians. Being open-minded I started hearing about the gospel and reading the bible. As a result I have become a bit more critical of Christianity (at least it's evangelical variant) Also to think more critically about religion than I used to, I have generally had a fairly neutral, sometimes negative, sometimes positive view of religion. That is beginning to change due to my experiences dealing with Evangelical Christians in recent years (I was not exposed much to those people in my younger years living in Hobart and Melbourne). I have come to the conclusion those people in having often a ‘correct’ interpretation of the bible. Also I have come to the conclusion that the 'better' Christians are the ones who don’t interpret the bible literally.

Also recently, I have been reading the works of the so-called 'new atheist' authors such as Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennett and Stenger and see them as reasonable men who are arguing ideas which some of them are possibly true. Like for example asserting that god is a psychological illusion or that religion can be studied scientifically like sport.
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Hello, and welcome.
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#3
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Oh fuck...another Aussie!


G'day, mate.

Big Grin
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Welcome ziggy Big Grin

I'd agree that God can't ever be scientifically proven. So already you're agreeing with a Christian. WTF are you you WUSS!!! Big Grin

I like your laid back approach... or is it that it's 3am here? Dawkins is a knob on theology, may as well study Ray comfort if you want to know about evolution (sig steal - I admit it!). Seamus is a grumpy old fart too. He's known as Padriac here. He and I are best mates.
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(August 17, 2010 at 10:13 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Welcome ziggy Big Grin

I'd agree that God can't ever be scientifically proven. So already you're agreeing with a Christian. WTF are you you WUSS!!! Big Grin

Well the people who say god does not exist, are making an assumption which has not been scientifically proven, to invert the saying of a guy I know in real life, if god/s was proven not to exist by somebody they would win the Nobel prize. The guy I know actually said that comment if somebody had scientifically proven that god/s existed.

I do admit I have my pantheistic moments and tendencies to have very strange thoughts about reality. I go between agnostic pantheism and agnostic atheism on a very regular basis. When I am in my agnostic atheist mood, I consider my beliefs concerning the nature of the universe as a hypothesis rather than theory to use scientific jargon.

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Hello mate, which bit of the provinces are you from?

I grew up in Melbourne but spent 12 years in Traralgon before moving to Perth.
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#7
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G'day ziggy!! Levitate

Another Vicbloodytorian???Dodgy

Welcome to our nightmare!! Panic

Hope your stay is a good one.
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G'day Ziggy. Glad you came over. Perhaps together we can persuade them to build a Fantasy Island..

No, I'm not Seamus here, I have another nom de guerre. My real name is too hard for most people to pronounce. Viz; Tarquin St John Shagnasty (pronounced Tar-kwin Sin-jin Shaw- ness-ee.) Really? Of course, would I lie?Angel Cloud



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(August 18, 2010 at 1:57 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Hello mate, which bit of the provinces are you from?

I grew up in Melbourne but spent 12 years in Traralgon before moving to Perth.

I am from the Northern part of the state and I lived in Melbourne from 1996-2003.
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Hello, enjoy your time here.
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