We are no different than computers

[Exian]

I don't know, man, we're pretty damn complex 

I don't know, man, people are rather simple for me to comprehend.  

Oh, hey, I didn't mean any offense. Sometimes I forget to filter out my relaxed hillbilly talk lol. Sorry if I pissed you off. It doesn't seem like we're talking about the same thing anyway.

[Silver]

It doesn't seem like we're talking about the same thing anyway.

We are, though.

[Marsellus Wallace]

I don't know, man, people are rather simple for me to comprehend.  

Oh, hey, I didn't mean any offense. Sometimes I forget to filter out my relaxed hillbilly talk lol. Sorry if I pissed you off. It doesn't seem like we're talking about the same thing anyway.

i thought ur reply was very OK <3

[Exian]

It doesn't seem like we're talking about the same thing anyway.

We are, though.

Oh, alright then. We disagree...I think.

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That's interesting as hell, Rob. After all, how or when will we know when something like awareness has emerged? And how sooner before we know did it actually occur?

[pocaracas]

Present-day computers are mainly sequential machines.... there's some parallelism, but it's always very limited, when compared to the parallelizing power of analog neuron "computing".
Until we can mimic the millions (more like billions) of parallel processing centers and their interactions with each other, we won't be able to compare our computers with a functioning brain.
Also, it is my guess that, as soon as such a fully parallel machine is turned on, we'll see it behaving almost like a human child, perhaps a baby.... it will require some sort of "sensory input", not just text from a keyboard, but also images... it may become very adept very quickly and not suffer from path degradation like humans do during their teen years... because of that, it may come to suffer from some form of overload...
Desires and feelings could arise, too... oh well, I hear there's a new movie coming to theaters called Ex-Machina... according to the trailer, it does seem to explore some of these questions...

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Rated R, of course... -.-'

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[Alex K]

Present-day computers are mainly sequential machines.... there's some parallelism, but it's always very limited, when compared to the parallelizing power of analog neuron "computing".
Until we can mimic the millions (more like billions) of parallel processing centers and their interactions with each other, we won't be able to compare our computers with a functioning brain.
Also, it is my guess that, as soon as such a fully parallel machine is turned on, we'll see it behaving almost like a human child, perhaps a baby.... it will require some sort of "sensory input", not just text from a keyboard, but also images... it may become very adept very quickly and not suffer from path degradation like humans do during their teen years... because of that, it may come to suffer from some form of overload...
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I think when you'd train an artificial neural network, you would also slowly reduce the factor by which new inputs rescale the weights, once the most important stuff is learned. That might mimic the effect you mention to some extent.

[pocaracas]

I think when you'd train an artificial neural network, you would also slowly reduce the factor by which new inputs rescale the weights, once the most important stuff is learned. That might mimic the effect you mention to some extent.

Might, yes... but this is a self-training NN, we're talking about here... would that self-training work the same way?... Maybe if it was "genetically" encoded...

[Alex K]

I think when you'd train an artificial neural network, you would also slowly reduce the factor by which new inputs rescale the weights, once the most important stuff is learned. That might mimic the effect you mention to some extent.

Might, yes... but this is a self-training NN, we're talking about here... would that self-training work the same way?... Maybe if it was "genetically" encoded...

Yes, just have it slowly calcify over age by itself.

[robvalue]

Organic computers...

[Mudhammam]

I don't know, man, we're pretty damn complex 

I don't know, man, people are rather simple for me to comprehend.  

I think that says more about your simplistic notions of human beings rather than anything characteristic of personality and the physical structure that corresponds to it.