Debunking of Modern Evolutionary and Cosmological Theories

[gomlbrobro]

Lol.  That picture is funny and does represent the truth of most Christians.  And no... I am not attending a Christian school.  I only disregard the idea of Darwin and other creation theories because I have witnessed firsthand and done research on 'spirits'.  My findings also indicate that these are of demonic nature.  Hence this is why I believe the Christian God to be true, rather than any other.  The presence of a supernatural realm (with spirits), seen throughout history and even today, in my opinion, completely debunks any scientific theory attributed to our creation.

At best, you have fooled yourself; at worst, you are delusional.   

Believe me, I am a rational thinker as most of you are.  I don't arbitrarily believe in a higher power simply because other people do or a Book in history says so.  Evidence of a spiritual realm pretty much automatically lead me to break off from atheism into theism.  I can honestly say it is the best thing that's ever happened in my life. Seriously, if you have a mind like me that looks at the evidence presented by the Christian church as "big woop", look in to evidence of a spiritual realm.  Personally, I found the demonic spiritual realm to be much more convincing.  It compelled me, it might for you as well.

No, you do not appear to be a rational thinker - certainly not a critical thinker; you have swallowed some nonsense hook, line, and sinker.

Lol. You're quite vindictive don't you think?  What have I done to offend you?  Presented a contrary opinion?  If you're going to say such things, at least provide some reasoning that the spiritual realm would be highly improbable.  Notice that I said prove it to be improbable, not true.  I don't want anything saying this is a fallacy because I know very well this cannot be disproven.  

[Esquilax]

Lol.  That picture is funny and does represent the truth of most Christians.  And no... I am not attending a Christian school.  I only disregard the idea of Darwin and other creation theories because I have witnessed firsthand and done research on 'spirits'.  My findings also indicate that these are of demonic nature.  Hence this is why I believe the Christian God to be true, rather than any other.  The presence of a supernatural realm (with spirits), seen throughout history and even today, in my opinion, completely debunks any scientific theory attributed to our creation.

The existence of a spiritual realm is evidence only of that, not of any specific creationist ideal, or the christian god. Are you saying that spirits could not exist without your specific god? How did you determine that? How did you determine any of what you just said?

Believe me, I am a rational thinker as most of you are.  I don't arbitrarily believe in a higher power simply because other people do or a Book in history says so.  Evidence of a spiritual realm pretty much automatically lead me to break off from atheism into theism.  I can honestly say it is the best thing that's ever happened in my life. Seriously, if you have a mind like me that looks at the evidence presented by the Christian church as "big woop", look in to evidence of a spiritual realm.  Personally, I found the demonic spiritual realm to be much more convincing.  It compelled me, it might for you as well.

If you had evidence of that stuff you could win a Nobel Prize and go down in history as one of the greatest people ever, responsible for saving countless souls. May I ask why you're not doing any of that stuff? Given the insanely high stakes for other people, it's downright selfish of you not to share your evidence, if you have it.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Yeah. no.  Everything in your essay is just...well...wrong.

Boru

[gomlbrobro]

Lol.  That picture is funny and does represent the truth of most Christians.  And no... I am not attending a Christian school.  I only disregard the idea of Darwin and other creation theories because I have witnessed firsthand and done research on 'spirits'.  My findings also indicate that these are of demonic nature.  Hence this is why I believe the Christian God to be true, rather than any other.  The presence of a supernatural realm (with spirits), seen throughout history and even today, in my opinion, completely debunks any scientific theory attributed to our creation.

The existence of a spiritual realm is evidence only of that, not of any specific creationist ideal, or the christian god. Are you saying that spirits could not exist without your specific god? How did you determine that? How did you determine any of what you just said?

It "indicates" that it would be related to a deity.  If that were true, it would also mean that science is not the creation of our universe.  It is "in my opinion" given that all of the theories of deities in our culture, that this would be a reasonable assumption.

Believe me, I am a rational thinker as most of you are.  I don't arbitrarily believe in a higher power simply because other people do or a Book in history says so.  Evidence of a spiritual realm pretty much automatically lead me to break off from atheism into theism.  I can honestly say it is the best thing that's ever happened in my life. Seriously, if you have a mind like me that looks at the evidence presented by the Christian church as "big woop", look in to evidence of a spiritual realm.  Personally, I found the demonic spiritual realm to be much more convincing.  It compelled me, it might for you as well.

If you had evidence of that stuff you could win a Nobel Prize and go down in history as one of the greatest people ever, responsible for saving countless souls. May I ask why you're not doing any of that stuff? Given the insanely high stakes for other people, it's downright selfish of you not to share your evidence, if you have it.

"In my opinion" and "my findings" imply that when I say "evidence", it means that I deem it as evidence for myself.  Do I have "evidence" by your terms, no...  But I deem it as true based on the countless testimonies (of athiests as well), cults, and historical accounts to name a few.  If you have not done sufficient research on this topic, you are the one that is fooled, not me.

[Minimalist]

Hi Goml, welcome to AF.
It's a good thing you wrote that for an English class rather than a science one.
The response you got here would probably replicate what you would get from the typical indoctrinated science teacher.
Great job.

Yep.  That kind of bald-faced shit can only go to an asshole like the prof.

[Whateverist]

If you're here to get someone to read your paper, good luck. It doesn't seem promising and I know too little about you to be intrigued. Perhaps you'd like to make an introduction thread or select a single coherent point you'd like to make or question you'd like to ask. Otherwise I'll be very surprised if anyone gets over that wall of words.

[SteelCurtain]

gomlbrobro,

What is the evidence that you have experienced? What are these testimonies from atheists that have encountered the spiritual realm, and why do you consider this testimony to be compelling?

I generally don't devote my time to researching topics which don't appear in any way to have any basis in reality. What is it that has convinced your "rational minded" self that demons exist and have an effect on the world?

[Surgenator]

Let me be clear...  I was obviously not trying to sway any opinions on this forum, as most of you have done a lot of research - much more than me.  I apologize if it seemed that way.  I do agree with all of your criticism; I didn't really know anything much about evolution and cosmological science before a week ago.  This was written for a senior class in high school English... Of course it would not be acceptable in any sort of university science class.

It would be absolutely laughable this was seen as "proof" of a higher power.  This is a 7 page research paper - even 1000 pages would not be adequate for some.  

At least you admit you don't know enough to justify any of your claims. The more you research (internet research doesn't count), the more you'll realize that evolution is a FACT.

Yes I was trying to say to much at once, which makes it probably boring and aside from the topic, but this was solely written to arouse some sort of curiosity.  "I'll start taking OP seriously when can correctly explain what evolution is and how it works." Indeed, this would be a mistake if you did, lol.

The only thing you arouse from me is annoyance. Most of us already heard of these arguments and are tired of hearing them.

[AFTT47]

This is not a legitimate subject of discussion - anymore than debating whether Earth is a disk or a sphere is legitimate. It would have been legitimate if the internet existed in 1900 but not in 2015. This subject has been settled and I wish people would treat it as such. Don't validate the creationist point of view by debating with them. They just need to grow up.

[Exian]

You said you are skeptical and need evidence to believe anything, like many of us, and that this is why you needed (and have) spirit evidence to believe in the Christian god. Going on to say that it isn't the same evidence that we would need is back peddling, don't you think?