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Converting to Atheism?
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WLC is a justifier, not a philosopher. But his real skill is convincing people he knows what he's talking about.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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I agree. I've watched a couple videos of WLC talking, and all he really does is sprinkle a few big words into the same arguments other Christians have been using for a long time.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. -Bertrand Russell

Even if god did exist, he has yet to prove it, and our doubt is justified.
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I am sure WLC has some crexibility and a iu tryung to type that to my phone wgyle laughking
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Still, i find no compelling argument to join this atheism shit. I have proof of the twin godesses.
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(June 2, 2015 at 8:53 am)nicanica123 Wrote: But I do like WLC. I don't think that he can be excoriated here and also let the everyone else get away with their own logical fallacies. I go back to that dialogue he had with Kraus in Brisbane. Kraus used blatant dishonesty and showed his ignorance multiple times. Krauss is a scientist, not a philosopher or professional debator so I would expect him fault at times. But WLC deserves more credit


Sorry, but WLC is provably intellectually dishonest.

There is no arguing that his brand of debate rhetoric is well done, in that, without looking past the surface, it almost sounds credible. 

He did a debate against physicist, Sean Carroll, where Craig just got his ass handed to him. What's really embarrassing is that he'd even attempt his rubbish understanding of physics in a debate against a Cal Tech physicist. 

There is one point in the debate where Craig uses a quote by Alan Guth in an attempt to support his flawed cosmological argument , and in response by Carroll, he shows a vid of Guth saying pretty much the opposite of what Craig claims he says. 

If I, someone with a basic understanding of logic, can find all the fallacies in Craig's arguments, why should he deserve more credit?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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(June 2, 2015 at 4:54 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: He did a debate against physicist, Sean Carroll, where Craig just got his ass handed to him. What's really embarrassing is that he'd even attempt his rubbish understanding of physics in a debate against a Cal Tech physicist. 

There is one point in the debate where Craig uses a quote by Alan Guth in an attempt to support his flawed cosmological argument , and in response by Carroll, he shows a vid of Guth saying pretty much the opposite of what Craig claims he says.

Do you remember what Craig's response was, to that?

"Oh, well, maybe that's just his opinion, or what he wants to be true..." And then he goes right back to the same old argument. Rolleyes
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Whimsical Limestone Crusher
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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Wet Lizard Crap


Or banananana
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