About sinful nature, sexual pleasures?

[Jenny A]

I almost forgot about this little gem....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

The protestant rebuttal is almost as good:

[Minimalist]

[KUSA]

So if its a sin to jack off. Or masturbate. Then is god telling us that animals sin every day.

Animals do not sin because they are not spiritual beings.

Did our monkey fathers sin when they jerked off?. Funny. If god ment for it to be sinful, then why are our biological nature active on that case?

It isn't our nature. It is Satan telling us it is.

If the idea is to repress your sexual hormones. Then how come that some who hasn't wanked for months can ejaculate in the middle of the night?

It's just the body regulating itself, no sin involved.

Why does God makes it hard to maintain that "Non sexual pleasure" virtue?. If god gives easy laws to follow by, then he sure designed our bodies to be bad at working on it.

God created sex for us to enjoy in marriage.

So that means sexual pleasure is normal and that whoever made it up didn't see the bad part of sexual repression like "Psychological dilemmas" "Hostile rape nature". Just to name a few that can occur in a delusional mind. But don't worry. Its satan playing trix on you.

Satan is trying very hard to turn us to sin.

Thats so friggin childish if thats how people in the past really thought about this stuff. I honestly gotta say.

You need to grow up in the word.

[robvalue]

It seems any kind of sexual activity that isn't producing more and more cult members, within a binding contract of that cult, is evil.

Kind of like a precursor to this fucking quiver-full garbage. Urgh.

[Longhorn]

It's all about controlling people. A law that is impossible to follow but must be obeyed, with the corresponding thought crime to boot.

It's their way of creating a need (sexuality is sin) for their product (offering salvation). They make it an illness because they want to sell you their medicine.

Sleazy fucking bastards.

[robvalue]

Getting this seed planted in your child's brain early on is like getting them addicted to crack, then blaming them for the addiction and helping the rehab centres make a mint.

[abaris]

Good to know.  The next time I'm having a wank and someone walks in on me an gasps, 'What the hell are doing??', I'm going to reply, 'Cancer therapy.  Please shut the door on your way out.

Boru

Reminds me of this little pile of shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ueuz0-Rnd5c

That's what Bill Maher had to say about it:

Maher laughingly said that the Catholics are now off the hook because “we’ve found someone worse than they are” about masturbation.

That's also from the Mor(m)ons.

Never touch the intimate parts of your body except during normal toilet processes. Avoid being alone as much as possible. Find good company and stay in this good company.

If you are associated with other persons having this same problem, you must break off their friendship. Never associate with other people having the same weakness. Don't suppose that two of you will quit together, you never will. You must get away from people of that kind. Just to be in their presence will keep your problem foremost in your mind. The problem must be taken out of your mind for that is where it really exists. Your mind must be on other and more wholesome things.

When you bathe, do not admire yourself in a mirror. Never stay in the bath more than five or six minutes -- just long enough to bathe and dry and dress and then get out of the bathroom into a room where you will have some member of your family present.

When in bed, if that is where you have your problem for the most part, dress yourself for the night so securely that you cannot easily touch your vital parts, and so that it would be difficult and time consuming for you to remove those clothes. By the time you started to remove protective clothing you would have sufficiently controlled your thinking that the temptation would leave you.

If the temptation seems overpowering while you are in bed, get out of bed and go into the kitchen and fix yourself a snack, even if it is in the middle of the night, and even if you are not hungry, and despite your fears of gaining weight. The purpose behind this suggestion is that you get your mind on something else. You are the subject of your thoughts, so to speak.
Never read pornographic material. Never read about your problem. Keep it out of mind. Remember -- "First a thought, then an act." The thought pattern must be changed. You must not allow this problem to remain in your mind. When you accomplish that, you soon will be free of the act.

Put wholesome thoughts into your mind at all times. Read good books -- Church books -- Scriptures -- Sermons of the Brethren. Make a daily habit of reading at least one chapter of Scripture, preferably from one of the four Gospels in the New Testament, or the Book of Mormon. The four Gospels -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John -- above anything else in the Bible can be helpful because of their uplifting qualities.

Pray. But when you pray, don't pray about this problem, for that will tend to keep it in your mind more than ever. Pray for faith, pray for understanding of the Scriptures, pray for the Missionaries, the General Authorities, your friends, your families, but keep the problem out of your mind by not mentioning it ever -- not in conversation with others, not in your prayers. keep it out of your mind!

http://www.ldolphin.org/mormon.html

[Longhorn]

Getting this seed planted in your child's brain early on is like getting them addicted to crack, then blaming them for the addiction and helping the rehab centres make a mint.

And it's torture to get over it. You find yourself directly on the line of conflict between your indoctrinated brain and your reproductive organs. Not cool.

[Exian]

Baahahaha Who the fuck gets walked in on while watching porn and just keeps watching porn without wigging out!? And who the fuck keeps tabs on their friends masturbation schedule!? Makes me wish I knew some Mormons just to see how they'd approach me about my sinnin'. I'd let them keep walking in on me, and progressively get more extreme. The first day it would be me watching some girl-on-girl, and the last day would just be me and Vorlon, like "what's up?"

[Exian]

Baaahaha Just googled "frottage". Surprisingly, that's the only one I had to google.