This thread is kinda making me wanna get knocked up just so I can post the aborted foetus to Fr0d0. Is that weird?
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Why I Am Pro-Life
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 (July 29, 2013 at 11:36 am)Slave Wrote: We're not talking a hypothetical future person though. Yes we are. That's the thing you are missing. Up to 40% of fetuses are aborted biologically by a woman's body. You can't say that's going to be a person. My cousin experienced a stillbirth with her first pregnancy. If this shit is so important why aren't we directing billions of dollars into medical research to make sure no fetuses are discarded naturally by a woman's body? It's not even a concern. Not even a blip on the radar. Why? (July 29, 2013 at 11:36 am)Slave Wrote: We're talking about a growing human. No we're not. We're talking about a possible human. Hey here's another possible human: If I impregnated you our possible child would be born and live for decades and do all kinds of cool things. So we gotta do it. Because if we don't we're killing that possible person. (July 29, 2013 at 11:36 am)Slave Wrote: My hypothetical question regarding the brain dead human with a high probability of gaining higher cognitive function was to demonstrate the flaws in the thinking that it isn't a person now = okay to terminate their life when in reality if this were to happen, no one could justify killing them knowing that given time that person will no longer be brain dead. It would be robbing them of their chance at living for being a temporary inconvenience. If you don't let me impregnate you, you are robbing our possible child at the chance of living. I know it's a temporary inconvenience for you to let me fuck the shit out of you numerous times. But for that child's sake you're just going to have to put up with it.
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (July 29, 2013 at 10:48 am)Rahul Wrote:(July 29, 2013 at 4:28 am)fr0d0 Wrote: 6. Deciding to terminate a life once you know it has begun developing, is always terminating a life. Unlike slave, I'm quite happy with the law as it stands, with abortion legal before an age of sentience. Aborting a fetus is terminating a human life. That's not up for discussion. It's the current scientific claim. (July 29, 2013 at 12:15 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Aborting a fetus is terminating a human life. That's not up for discussion. It's the current scientific claim. Yes, it is up for discussion. Aborting a fetus is not terminating a human life. You are PREDICTING it's going to be a human life. You can't make that claim. There's only potential there. Not certainty.
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (July 29, 2013 at 10:48 am)Rahul Wrote: You can't kill a future person. I agree. You can't kill something on the future. But I keep reaffirming the scientific position: that a zygote + is human life. We've already covered contraception, and I've stated my opinion which is that this isn't terminating a life, but preventing it.  (July 29, 2013 at 11:36 am)Slave Wrote: We're not talking a hypothetical future person though. We're talking about a growing human. Actually, we are talking about a hypothetical future person. The fact that its a developing human is irrelevant. We don't have rights because we are human. We have rights because we exist as people. Brain = person. No brain = not a person. Can we please put the "well, technically it's a human life" argument to rest?
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist (July 29, 2013 at 12:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I agree. You can't kill something on the future. But I keep reaffirming the scientific position: that a zygote + is human life. *rolls eyes* Yes, Fr0d0, it's genetically a Homo sapiens. Genetically my severed finger is a Homo sapiens. But it's not a person. It's just biological material with Homo sapiens DNA.
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(July 29, 2013 at 12:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: But I keep reaffirming the scientific position: that a zygote + is human life. And we keep trying to explain to you that this is an irrelevant argument.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (July 29, 2013 at 12:06 pm)Rahul Wrote: Up to 40% of fetuses are aborted biologically by a woman's body. Natural abortions occur for very good reason in a lot of cases. None of these concern me because no human decided to abort them. And there is quite a bit of investment in IVF etc. (July 29, 2013 at 12:28 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Natural abortions occur for very good reason in a lot of cases. None of these concern me because no human decided to abort them. Fuck yeah they are. For GOOD REASONS. Manually done abortions are done for good reasons too. For damn good reasons. It's not flippant for a woman to elect abortion. It's not casual. It's done for very good fucking reasons. A woman would never do it otherwise.
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