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The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
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(September 3, 2020 at 6:22 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. But he is accidentally correct to say that WWI was a pointless and evil event which wasted millions of lives. Huge numbers of people were suckered into supporting it by propaganda and stupid nationalism, and they died for no good reason. 

We should keep this in mind the next time we're asked to go die for the country.

Trump is a hypocrite to focus on WWI soldiers, since what he says about them is even more true of soldiers in the Bush/Obama/Trump wars. These wars have cost close to 6 trillion dollars, have ruined millions of lives, have made America less safe, and have just generally made the world a worse place. They have made a lot of money for certain corporations, however. Any soldier who has gone to one of these wars when he or she didn't absolutely have to is indeed a sucker -- tricked by corporate propaganda into risking (or losing) his own life for no good reason.

Recognizing this would make the continuation of such wars more difficult.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
(September 4, 2020 at 6:43 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(September 3, 2020 at 6:22 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. But he is accidentally correct to say that WWI was a pointless and evil event which wasted millions of lives. Huge numbers of people were suckered into supporting it by propaganda and stupid nationalism, and they died for no good reason. 

We should keep this in mind the next time we're asked to go die for the country.

Trump is a hypocrite to focus on WWI soldiers, since what he says about them is even more true of soldiers in the Bush/Obama/Trump wars. These wars have cost close to 6 trillion dollars, have ruined millions of lives, have made America less safe, and have just generally made the world a worse place. They have made a lot of money for certain corporations, however. Any soldier who has gone to one of these wars when he or she didn't absolutely have to is indeed a sucker -- tricked by corporate propaganda into risking (or losing) his own life for no good reason.

Recognizing this would make the continuation of such wars more difficult.

As for WWI, there was a draft in place and therefore only a legal deferral or illegal run for the border was the only way to get out of serving.  The people who served weren't really given a choice and there are those who thought that fighting for their country when called is the thing to do.

As for the years since the mid-70s when the draft was done away with, again, those who thought/think that fighting for their country is the right thing to do doesn't make them suckers.  Without a standing military the US would not have the defense it may need.

Maybe there is something within some people that made/makes them feel that fighting and potentially dying for their country is a worthwhile endeavor.  

I am perfectly fine with the time I spent in the service.  It was mutually beneficial.  The military filled a need for me and my family and I filled a need for the military.  The fact that I didn't die while in that service doesn't negate the fact that the possibility existed.  I knew it when I volunteered and raised my hand to be sworn in.
  
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Now Trump is saying he even phoned Melania back in Washington to say how disappointed he was that he couldn’t go to the military cemetery outside of Paris. In fact, Melania was with him in Paris. He just made up his alibi.

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When in doubt, make shit up. If caught, say people are making shit up and they should stop making shit up.

Seriously, you can't make this shit up.
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I don’t generally lend my support to unsubstantiated stuff, but seeing as it's Trump, imma get behind his reported reason for not going - he was worried the rain would muss up his hair.

Tangentially, anyone who isn’t aware of Belleau Wood should read up on it. Soldiering at its finest (no sarcasm).

Boru
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(September 5, 2020 at 7:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Tangentially, anyone who isn’t aware of Belleau Wood should read up on it. Soldiering at its finest (no sarcasm).

Boru

Right up there with Sugar Loaf Hill.
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For the second time in three days, Trump has urged his supporters to vote twice. I sincerely hope they do, as the outcome can only be positive.

Some quick and admittedly shallow research by Yours Truly says that voting twice in the same election invalidates BOTH votes. So, every double vote for Trump is effectively a vote for Biden.

Furthermore, double voting is illegal in every state, and most states rank it as a Class IV felony, with penalties ranging from 6-18 months in prison and fines of up to $5000 (both of these vary by state). It’s the legal equivalent of the sexual abuse of a minor or grand theft auto (first offense).

And the icing on the cake is that convicted felons in the US lose the right to vote.

So, come on Trumpies - get out there! Vote early and vote often.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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At work.

In regards to the post above....

Won't evidence of such shenanigans, however, play into the paranoid mindset of such people about 'Democratic conspiacys' to rig the election against his Trumpy-ness?

America politics is sometimes confusing.

(For a definition of 'Confusing' that also has large levels of 'Stupid' plus 'Ignorance' blended in.... )
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