DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[I_am_not_mafia]

Well I'm going to pray to Mr God that the thread gets stopped either at page 998 or post 9998. Because 999 or 9999 wouldn't be frustrating enough.

Yeah I know the mods are in charge and all that, but that doesn't stop Xtians praying to Mr God that a surgeon can do their job properly, or thanking Mr God for the immigrants who come over and take the shitty jobs with low pay and no job security so we can all buy food at really low prices.

[Bucky Ball]

She's all gone.
How did this just happen from nothing ?
What is the cause of this nothingness.

Checkmate atheists.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Damn. My post just sent us over to page 999. I haven't prayed yet.

[CDF47]

In what way are they beyond your ways?  That god is willing to do terrible things which you are not?  That god is, somehow, dumber than you?  

Or is this just you saying that you don't understand why or how the benevolent lord of the cosmos could or would do such a stupid immoral thing?  

Yet again, god loses, on account of -you-.  Not me.  I'm sure that whatever meat fairy exists is facepalming itself violently everytime you open your mouth the cram word and deed into it's.

Thanks for your vote of confidence...LOL.

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No. 47,
What part of if your magic wish granting daddy is omniscient, then free will can not exist, don't you understand?

He knows all. It doesn't mean the entire world is automated.

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Tacos?

Tacos sound good right now.

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Ev, where you at? Almost at 1000.

[Angrboda]

OMG! We're so close I can taste it!

[Gwaithmir]

@CDF47:

The Bible does not mention if animal death occurred.
So, the best you can claim is that you don't know.

They had free will and they disobeyed.  That puts the problem on them.
That they had free will is irrelevant. God did not give them prior knowledge of good and evil, thus making him criminally negligent.

Not impossible.
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” (Epicurus)

They occur with God involved.  He wrote the laws of the universe.  He can defy them.
You are appealing to a logical fallacy known as Argument from Assertion. You cannot claim God was involved until you first prove that God exists.

[CDF47]

@CDF47:

The Bible does not mention if animal death occurred.
So, the best you can claim is that you don't know.

They had free will and they disobeyed.  That puts the problem on them.
That they had free will is irrelevant. God did not give them prior knowledge of good and evil, thus making him criminally negligent.

Not impossible.
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” (Epicurus)

They occur with God involved.  He wrote the laws of the universe.  He can defy them.
You are appealing to a logical fallacy known as Argument from Assertion. You cannot claim God was involved until you first prove that God exists.

Based on science I believe animal death occured.

They didn't want the knowledge of evil I bet after they gained it.  They was the whole point.  They would gain that knowledge if they ate from the tree of knowledge.  Free will is not irrelevant.  

He is able and He will end evil.

The information in DNA proves God exists.  Other arguments in this thread are astounding evidence for God's existence.

[Amarok]

@CDF47:

I think they knew of death prior to the fall due to animal death.  
The Bible states that there was no death in the world before the fall. Adam and Eve would have had no working knowledge of death.

He designed them with free will to obey Him or not and they chose to disobey
Since they had no knowledge of right and wrong beforehand, their "disobedience" was God's responsibility. It is also proof that God was criminally negligent. He created imperfect beings and then condemned them for behaving exactly the way he designed them to behave.

He is letting sin and evil run its course.
Which is impossible if God is omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient as mainstream Christianity claims.

Miracles.  The Bible is only about 10 percent supernatural.
Which doesn't prove that miracles happen or are even plausible.

The Bible does not mention if animal death occurred.

They had free will and they disobeyed.  That puts the problem on them.

Not impossible.

They occur with God involved.  He wrote the laws of the universe.  He can defy them.

1. If they eat they knew of death 

2. And God choose to give them free will he also did nothing to prevent it so it;s on him 

3. Yes it is if god is good it makes no sense he would do that

4. Assertions and not a refutation

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In what way are they beyond your ways?  That god is willing to do terrible things which you are not?  That god is, somehow, dumber than you?  

Or is this just you saying that you don't understand why or how the benevolent lord of the cosmos could or would do such a stupid immoral thing?  

Yet again, god loses, on account of -you-.  Not me.  I'm sure that whatever meat fairy exists is facepalming itself violently everytime you open your mouth the cram word and deed into it's.

Thanks for your vote of confidence...LOL.

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No. 47,
What part of if your magic wish granting daddy is omniscient, then free will can not exist, don't you understand?

He knows all. It doesn't mean the entire world is automated.

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Tacos?

Tacos sound good right now.

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Ev, where you at?  Almost at 1000.

Yes it does if god has foreknowledge

[Bucky Ball]

Actually it was not "disobedience" that caused Adam to be banished from Eden.

Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.
He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

It was the gods' insistence / fear that Adam and Eve become immortal as "they" were. 
Whatever they had done to piss off the gods, had already happened.

[Angrboda]

Shameless attempt to break the 1,000 page barrier.