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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 30, 2018 at 10:52 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:
(November 30, 2018 at 6:12 am)Everena Wrote: But my question was what convinces you that an intelligent creator wasn't necessary "It just all happened naturally dude" is not all that convincing so I do not see how you can be convinced by it.

What convinces me is the preponderance of evidence favoring a number of viable abiogenesis hypotheses. The fact that these are viable hypotheses negates any need for an intelligent creator. The fact that this evidence is not convincing to you is not my problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/borelfaq.html
She will just gish's gallop a bunch of stuff from a creationist webshite that willl be scientist who study Abiogenisis and accept and try and pain it as though their debunking it .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
38 posts to go. Everyone pull your weight!
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Some of us have much more horseshit to carry though.

[Image: icon_quote.jpg]Everena:
How do you think a God should be, if it were up to you to decide.

If the god of the bible turns out to be real, first and foremost, it does not even deserve the sweat off my balls, let alone any sort of worship.
Secondly, if I had the power to choose, it would not be god, would it? However, I'll play along; it would be anything other then that worthless, yellow bellied, cowardly, sadistic picece of shit!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 30, 2018 at 11:08 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: @CDF47:

I think they knew of death prior to the fall due to animal death.  
The Bible states that there was no death in the world before the fall. Adam and Eve would have had no working knowledge of death.

He designed them with free will to obey Him or not and they chose to disobey
Since they had no knowledge of right and wrong beforehand, their "disobedience" was God's responsibility. It is also proof that God was criminally negligent. He created imperfect beings and then condemned them for behaving exactly the way he designed them to behave.

He is letting sin and evil run its course.
Which is impossible if God is omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient as mainstream Christianity claims.

Miracles.  The Bible is only about 10 percent supernatural.
Which doesn't prove that miracles happen or are even plausible.

The Bible does not mention if animal death occurred.

They had free will and they disobeyed.  That puts the problem on them.

Not impossible.

They occur with God involved.  He wrote the laws of the universe.  He can defy them.
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Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
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That puts the problem on them you reckon, and yet god put the consequences on everything else.  A negligent moral failure who throws temper tantrums when things don't go his way..even though he, ostensibly, knew that they wouldn't all along. 

So I guess we can add inexplicably dumb to the list....and at this point, I have to ask again whether you're describing yourself or a god. Pretty sure it's the former. You don't know anything about the latter.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 30, 2018 at 2:15 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: That puts the problem on them you reckon, and yet god put the consequences on everything else.  A negligent moral failure who throws temper tantrums when things don't go his way..even though he, ostensibly, knew that they wouldn't all along. 

So I guess we can add inexplicably dumb to the list....and at this point, I have to ask again whether you're describing yourself or a god.  Pretty sure it's the former.  You don't know anything about the latter.

God the Son came here Himself to save man from his own sin.  That is leadership by example.

(November 30, 2018 at 2:19 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: I gave all my dead batteries away today, Free of charge.

Good job.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
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(November 30, 2018 at 2:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(November 30, 2018 at 2:15 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: That puts the problem on them you reckon, and yet god put the consequences on everything else.  A negligent moral failure who throws temper tantrums when things don't go his way..even though he, ostensibly, knew that they wouldn't all along. 

So I guess we can add inexplicably dumb to the list....and at this point, I have to ask again whether you're describing yourself or a god.  Pretty sure it's the former.  You don't know anything about the latter.

God the Son came here Himself to save man from his own sin.  That is leadership by example.

(November 30, 2018 at 2:19 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: I gave all my dead batteries away today, Free of charge.

Good job.

So, when will you start having a discussion with the other forum users? You could at least, try.
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C'mon 3 more pages!!!!!
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hmmmpf.
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