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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The universe is expanding
July 1, 2020 at 12:03 pm
(June 30, 2020 at 10:45 am)WinterHold Wrote: (June 30, 2020 at 10:13 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Stating something is not post-hoc does not make it not post-hoc. Presenting an English translation of the Quran published before 1929 that translated the verb as expanding would make it not post-hoc.
But I just did provide you with a quotation from an ancient Tafseer (interpretation) book of the Quran.
I think you are ignoring the date the author of the book was born: 1214
That's roughly about 700 years before 1929.
Links; again:
https://islamweb.net/ar/library/index.ph...50&ID=4682
This is from the book of Al-Qurtubi who was born in 1214
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qurtubi
I should also note that the multi-verse was discussed briefly according to the interpretation -which is 700 years before Hubble made his theory-.
Funny how neither of those were the English translations before 1929 that I challenged you to present. It's almost like no English translation translated it as 'expand' before 1929....
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The universe is expanding
July 1, 2020 at 12:54 pm
(July 1, 2020 at 12:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote: WW2 ended in 1939.
Got bad news for ya: You are wrong
But hey, you are wrong most of the time.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The universe is expanding
July 1, 2020 at 1:28 pm
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The universe is expanding
July 1, 2020 at 1:55 pm
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(July 1, 2020 at 1:52 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (July 1, 2020 at 1:28 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: How about my point: If science discovers new evidence tomorrow. New evidence that the universe does not expand. Is the Quran wrong?
Why would I care about the "what if" ?
Because you are interested in finding out what is true and what not. Maybe because you are interested in evaluating your own epistemology? Because you are interested in knowing if your tools to find out what is true (or not) are trustworthy?
If those apply to you, you might reply. If you dont care for truth or tools how to find out, you may keep evading.
Would the Quran be wrong?
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The universe is expanding
July 1, 2020 at 4:34 pm
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(July 1, 2020 at 4:06 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Quote:Mister Agenda Wrote:
Funny how neither of those were the English translations before 1929 that I challenged you to present. It's almost like no English translation translated it as 'expand' before 1929....
What's funnier is that you ask for an English translation of the Quran before 1929.
Even though English did not become a "global language" or "lingua franca " until WW2:
https://english.stackexchange.com/questi...e-and-when
WW2 ended in 1939.
edit:
WW2 ended in 1945
Your request is wrong both semantically and logically; Mister Agenda
Just to be a pest, the Second World War ended in 1918. To be even MORE of a pest, the Quran was first translated into English in 1649.
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
now my point is -ironically- more valid. Thanks for giving me 6 more years of proof 
