[Quranic Reflection]: The universe is expanding

[Mister Agenda]

Stating something is not post-hoc does not make it not post-hoc. Presenting an English translation of the Quran published before 1929 that translated the verb as expanding would make it not post-hoc.

But I just did provide you with a quotation from an ancient Tafseer (interpretation) book of the Quran.
I think you are ignoring the date the author of the book was born: 1214

That's roughly about 700 years before 1929.

Links; again:

https://islamweb.net/ar/library/index.ph...50&ID=4682


This is from the book of Al-Qurtubi who was born in 1214

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qurtubi

I should also note that the multi-verse was discussed briefly according to the interpretation -which is 700 years before Hubble made his theory-.

Funny how neither of those were the English translations before 1929 that I challenged you to present. It's almost like no English translation translated it as 'expand' before 1929....

[WinterHold]

But I just did provide you with a quotation from an ancient Tafseer (interpretation) book of the Quran.
I think you are ignoring the date the author of the book was born: 1214

That's roughly about 700 years before 1929.

Links; again:

https://islamweb.net/ar/library/index.ph...50&ID=4682


This is from the book of Al-Qurtubi who was born in 1214

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qurtubi

I should also note that the multi-verse was discussed briefly according to the interpretation -which is 700 years before Hubble made his theory-.

Funny how neither of those were the English translations before 1929 that I challenged you to present. It's almost like no English translation translated it as 'expand' before 1929....

What's funnier is that you ask for an English translation of the Quran before 1929.
Even though English did not become a "global language" or "lingua franca " until WW2:

https://english.stackexchange.com/questi...e-and-when

WW2 ended in 1939.
edit:
WW2 ended in 1945

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Your request is wrong both semantically and logically.

[Deesse23]

WW2 ended in 1939.

Got bad news for ya: You are wrong

But hey, you are wrong most of the time.

[WinterHold]

WW2 ended in 1939.

Got bad news for ya: You are wrong

But hey, you are wrong most of the time.    

Edited : now my point is -ironically- more valid. Thanks for giving me 6 more years of proof

[Deesse23]

Got bad news for ya: You are wrong

But hey, you are wrong most of the time.    

Edited : now my point is -ironically- more valid. Thanks for giving me 6 more years of proof

How about my point: If science discovers new evidence tomorrow. New evidence that the universe does not expand. Is the Quran wrong?

[WinterHold]

Edited : now my point is -ironically- more valid. Thanks for giving me 6 more years of proof

How about my point: If science discovers new evidence tomorrow. New evidence that the universe does not expand. Is the Quran wrong?

Why would I care about the "what if" ?

[Deesse23]

How about my point: If science discovers new evidence tomorrow. New evidence that the universe does not expand. Is the Quran wrong?

Why would I care about the "what if" ?

Because you are interested in finding out what is true and what not. Maybe because you are interested in evaluating your own epistemology? Because you are interested in knowing if your tools to find out what is true (or not) are trustworthy?
If those apply to you, you might reply. If you dont care for truth or tools how to find out, you may keep evading.

Would the Quran be wrong?

[WinterHold]

Mister Agenda Wrote:

But I just did provide you with a quotation from an ancient Tafseer (interpretation) book of the Quran.
I think you are ignoring the date the author of the book was born: 1214

That's roughly about 700 years before 1929.

Links; again:

https://islamweb.net/ar/library/index.ph...50&ID=4682


This is from the book of Al-Qurtubi who was born in 1214

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qurtubi

I should also note that the multi-verse was discussed briefly according to the interpretation -which is 700 years before Hubble made his theory-.

Funny how neither of those were the English translations before 1929 that I challenged you to present. It's almost like no English translation translated it as 'expand' before 1929....

What's funnier is that you ask for an English translation of the Quran before 1929.
Even though English did not become a "global language" or "lingua franca " until WW2:

https://english.stackexchange.com/questi...e-and-when

WW2 ended in 1939.
edit:
WW2 ended in 1945

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Your request is wrong both semantically and logically; Mister Agenda

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Mister Agenda Wrote:

Funny how neither of those were the English translations before 1929 that I challenged you to present. It's almost like no English translation translated it as 'expand' before 1929....

What's funnier is that you ask for an English translation of the Quran before 1929.
Even though English did not become a "global language" or "lingua franca " until WW2:

https://english.stackexchange.com/questi...e-and-when

WW2 ended in 1939.
edit:
WW2 ended in 1945

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Your request is wrong both semantically and logically; Mister Agenda

Just to be a pest, the Second World War ended in 1918. To be even MORE of a pest, the Quran was first translated into English in 1649. 

Boru

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Other than obfuscation, I can't see why WinterHold is mixing up;

"WHEN was the Quran first translated into English?" Thanks to Mr Agenda for that useful date of 1649.

And,

"When did English become the most common language?"

Weird how WinterHold throws random seeming interpretations into a conversation.