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Why did god create evil?
RE: Why did god create evil?
The Collective is woefully short on science.
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RE: Why did god create evil?
(November 24, 2011 at 1:11 am)IATIA Wrote:
(November 24, 2011 at 12:40 am)Old Seer Wrote: Can you picture hate in your mind? If not then it's spiritual. If one can picture it then one can draw it on paper. Can you put the picture on paper? Is the chemical the hate?

Can you draw air?
Can you answer the question.

Air is material.
Material science solves material problems, Spiritual science answers non-material things.
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RE: Why did god create evil?
"Spiritual" and "science" are cognitive dissonants.
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RE: Why did god create evil?
Then you are saying that animals are spiritual also?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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RE: Why did god create evil?
(November 24, 2011 at 11:50 am)IATIA Wrote: Then you are saying that animals are spiritual also?

We don't recognize "Animals" in the same context in what is normally meant. While one has love and hate as mental directions toward others/things, one also has human and animal traits also as directions in ones being. Each of these directions are the basis of one's relationship with others. All have both human and animal mentalities. It is by the human traits that we accept and get along with each other. Opposite that (Animal) is why we cannot get along peacefully. They both are the components of "personality". In our everyday use of common language we use the term "dog" to mean what everyone else uses it as. But, to us,"dog" expresses a type of body. Our observations show that they have the very same spiritual makeup as we. The use of Human and animal traits determines what manner of social structure we are under. A garden slug needs little or no social structure because it doesn't need it. What is referred to as "dog" is dependent upon a greater social structure and there-fore have a higher need for human and animal traits, the very same as we. That's why there is no such thing as a human body. If the "dog" has the very same personality traits and directions as we then the dog would also have a human body
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RE: Why did god create evil?
(October 23, 2011 at 4:13 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: Humans are always coming up with stories to explain evil in the world. The people that wrote the bible story just really sucked at it.
You can do evil, can't you? If asked why did "God" created evil then are you like him. And if you are or can do evil how can you say there's no God, you got the ability from someone/somewhere. I am making no claim presently that there is a god of any kind. You you are capable of evil then how can you question the evil of others. If you could explain evil then you can explain yourself. If one asks, did God create evil, then one also must ask, did God create good. Could it be that God can only be found within one's self. If everyone has both good and evil can one then make a choice between the two. Which one of them would be humane.



































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Once again relying on objective morality in a dialogue with those for whom it tends to have little or no value.

Fail.
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(November 24, 2011 at 2:32 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Once again relying on objective morality in a dialogue with those for whom it tends to have little or no value.

Fail.
Can you do/be evil. yes/no
Answer the question.
You proceed form a point of hate/evil. There is another option. Can all those chemicals in the brain produce a kind and "good person".
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RE: Why did god create evil?
(November 24, 2011 at 1:01 pm)Old Seer Wrote:
(November 24, 2011 at 11:50 am)IATIA Wrote: Then you are saying that animals are spiritual also?

We don't recognize "Animals" in the same context in what is normally meant. While one has love and hate as mental directions toward others/things, one also has human and animal traits also as directions in ones being. Each of these directions are the basis of one's relationship with others. All have both human and animal mentalities. It is by the human traits that we accept and get along with each other. Opposite that (Animal) is why we cannot get along peacefully. They both are the components of "personality". In our everyday use of common language we use the term "dog" to mean what everyone else uses it as. But, to us,"dog" expresses a type of body. Our observations show that they have the very same spiritual makeup as we. The use of Human and animal traits determines what manner of social structure we are under. A garden slug needs little or no social structure because it doesn't need it. What is referred to as "dog" is dependent upon a greater social structure and there-fore have a higher need for human and animal traits, the very same as we. That's why there is no such thing as a human body. If the "dog" has the very same personality traits and directions as we then the dog would also have a human body

In other words, Yes. OK, now, how about a Bumblebee Bat or Etruscan Shrew?

(Ants, wasps and bees have a social structure.)
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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