Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter?

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Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter?

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter?

July 21, 2015 at 3:46 pm

(July 21, 2015 at 12:30 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Also there was the fulfillment of the OT prophecies, they (prophecies) were there to show the people that Jesus was the Messiah.

Which prophecies were those again, G-C?

The vague, self fulfilling one which the Jews, whose holy book the prophecies came from, said weren't fulfilled by Jebus.

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Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by luka - July 19, 2015 at 1:37 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2015 at 1:59 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by robvalue - July 19, 2015 at 2:40 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Athene - July 19, 2015 at 2:54 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 3:07 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:07 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 10:11 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:16 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 10:17 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:52 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 10:56 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 11:05 am

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:17 pm

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 12:22 pm

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 10:18 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:53 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 11:49 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by polar bear - July 19, 2015 at 10:18 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:54 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2015 at 10:59 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 11:07 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 11:59 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by zebo-the-fat - July 19, 2015 at 5:12 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 9:51 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:09 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 10:14 am

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 10:49 am

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2015 at 10:45 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2015 at 10:46 am

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2015 at 10:54 am

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 11:03 am

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2015 at 11:05 am

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2015 at 11:20 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 11:53 am

Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by KUSA - July 19, 2015 at 11:41 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:02 pm

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Nope - July 19, 2015 at 12:13 pm

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:30 pm

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2015 at 11:56 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:24 pm

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2015 at 12:35 pm

Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by KUSA - July 19, 2015 at 2:47 pm

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Godschild - July 20, 2015 at 10:57 pm

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Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by KUSA - July 20, 2015 at 11:17 pm

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by The Valkyrie - July 20, 2015 at 11:27 pm

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Godschild - July 21, 2015 at 12:02 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Foxaèr - July 21, 2015 at 12:21 am

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Pyrrho - July 21, 2015 at 10:56 am

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Godschild - July 21, 2015 at 12:15 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 21, 2015 at 12:30 am

RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by The Valkyrie - July 21, 2015 at 3:46 pm

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RE: Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter? - by Minimalist - July 21, 2015 at 12:54 pm

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