RE: Origins of Islam
July 22, 2015 at 9:49 pm
(This post was last modified: July 22, 2015 at 9:54 pm by Rayaan.)
This is a subject that will require a lot of time to explain, but here are some comments that I'd like to address for now, briefly:
The idea that Allah was a pagan moon god is rather a misinformation that was first invented by the Christian apologist Robert Morey, who had provably resorted to suppression of evidence, forgery, and deliberate misquotation in an attempt to prove his theory that Allah was a moon god. Not surprisingly, all of his moon god claims have been thoroughly rejected and falsified by both Islamic and Western scholars.
From Wikipedia:
Both Islamic and Western scholars have rejected these claims, some even calling them "insulting". It is argued that "Allah" is simply the word for "God" in Arabic, which ultimately derives from the same root as the Hebrew words "El" and "Elohim", both used in the Book of Genesis. In the words of Lori Peek, "Allah is simply the Arabic word meaning God. In fact people who speak Arabic, be they Christians, Jews or Muslims, often say "Allah" to describe God, just as God is called "Gott" in German and "Dieu" in French." - Full Article
Indeed, moon gods - and sun gods and many other gods - were worshipped in various cultures in the past such as by the ancient Sumerians, Mesopotamians, and even by some the Semites, for example. Pagan Arabs at one time also used to worship a moon god. There were also statues (or idols) of moon gods. However, there is no historical evidence nor any logical argument to to support the claim that "Allah" was the name of a moon god. Allah was never associated with any idols either.
The pagan Arabs used to worship many different gods along with Allah and the "daughters" of Allah. The daughters were named Lat, Uzza, and Manat. These were the "daughters" of Allah which they used to worship, which obviously means that they believed in Allah as well. And I've put the word "daughters" in quotes because Allah doesn't actually have any sons nor daughters according to Islamic belief, as the Quran states, "Say: He is God, the One and Only God, the Eternal, Absolute. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him!" (Surah 112:1-4).
Even when the Kaaba was filled with idols before Muhammad's time, there were no representations of Allah because everyone knew that Allah cannot be represented with anything materialistic: "The Kaaba contained hundreds of sacred rocks and statues from many Arabian tribes, but no images of Allah. No special cult was associated with Allah." - Professor William E. Phipps, Muhammad and Jesus, p. 21.
Welcome to the forum, BTW.
(July 22, 2015 at 9:00 pm)driver82 Wrote: Moreover, Muslim supreme God Allah was a pagan moon God and not a christian God or Jewish Yahweh. Famous godesses Laat and Manaat were Allah's daughters. Controversy of Satanic verses also increases the suspicion that praise of Allah's daughter was a dent to monotheism. Incidently, Muhammad's father's name was Abdullah which means servant of Allah. Strangely Muahammad's family was so much associated with Allah of Pagans that his father was named after him and not a christian or Jewish monotheist god. This raises doubt over Allah being the Abrahamic God.
The idea that Allah was a pagan moon god is rather a misinformation that was first invented by the Christian apologist Robert Morey, who had provably resorted to suppression of evidence, forgery, and deliberate misquotation in an attempt to prove his theory that Allah was a moon god. Not surprisingly, all of his moon god claims have been thoroughly rejected and falsified by both Islamic and Western scholars.
From Wikipedia:
Both Islamic and Western scholars have rejected these claims, some even calling them "insulting". It is argued that "Allah" is simply the word for "God" in Arabic, which ultimately derives from the same root as the Hebrew words "El" and "Elohim", both used in the Book of Genesis. In the words of Lori Peek, "Allah is simply the Arabic word meaning God. In fact people who speak Arabic, be they Christians, Jews or Muslims, often say "Allah" to describe God, just as God is called "Gott" in German and "Dieu" in French." - Full Article
Indeed, moon gods - and sun gods and many other gods - were worshipped in various cultures in the past such as by the ancient Sumerians, Mesopotamians, and even by some the Semites, for example. Pagan Arabs at one time also used to worship a moon god. There were also statues (or idols) of moon gods. However, there is no historical evidence nor any logical argument to to support the claim that "Allah" was the name of a moon god. Allah was never associated with any idols either.
The pagan Arabs used to worship many different gods along with Allah and the "daughters" of Allah. The daughters were named Lat, Uzza, and Manat. These were the "daughters" of Allah which they used to worship, which obviously means that they believed in Allah as well. And I've put the word "daughters" in quotes because Allah doesn't actually have any sons nor daughters according to Islamic belief, as the Quran states, "Say: He is God, the One and Only God, the Eternal, Absolute. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him!" (Surah 112:1-4).
Even when the Kaaba was filled with idols before Muhammad's time, there were no representations of Allah because everyone knew that Allah cannot be represented with anything materialistic: "The Kaaba contained hundreds of sacred rocks and statues from many Arabian tribes, but no images of Allah. No special cult was associated with Allah." - Professor William E. Phipps, Muhammad and Jesus, p. 21.
Welcome to the forum, BTW.
