(July 27, 2015 at 12:57 pm)lkingpinl Wrote:(July 27, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: You are assuming that the internal combustion engine (or any humanly designed artifact) is relevantly analogous to the universe. You haven't even begun to justify that leap.
What I am showing is that we see something with complexity, function and purpose and we immediately assume a mind behind it. Do you not look at something as simple as a letter and assume someone with a mind produced it?
I find it fascinating how we can take something simple as the internal combustion engine and assume there was a mind behind it, but see something infinitely more complex as the universe and say its pure chance with no need for an intelligence behind it? I don't find that logic very convincing.
We do not detect things that are designed by their complexity, we determine design by contrasting it with things that occur naturally.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
