(July 27, 2015 at 5:05 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: Of course for a creationist what we call naturally is what they call goddidit. Any chance of getting beyond a difference in how the terms are to be understood? If not, this conversation is thwarted at the most basic level.
Perhaps if the creation is explicated in terms we can understand, your question might find its answer.
So long as the explanation remains a hanging chad, the answer must devolve to interpretation, involving human fallacies and foibles.