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Has Science done away with a need for God?
RE: Has Science done away with a need for God?
(July 29, 2015 at 5:21 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(July 29, 2015 at 4:39 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: It is certainly akin to a coding language, that is ciphers and deciphering carrying information and meaning.

http://news.sciencemag.org/math/2012/08/...hard-drive

DNA is not a code, or a language. It is chemsitry.

If DNA is a code or a language, so is H2O.

This is from a biologist:

DNA is not a language, in any sense, because it does not represent concepts or meanings, a language entails that abstractsrepresent concretes, such as a number 5 written on a piece of paper, which has “meaning” to an entity which can understand what “5” means. Nothing analogous is found in DNA, since it is only a substitution cipher, which represents the order of amino acids in a protein, or RNA nucleotides in an RNA molecule. There is no abstract representation or assigned meaning going on with a direct physical substitution cipher, like DNA. When a stop codon orders a ribosome to stop transcribing, the ribosome does not “understand” that it has to stop transcribing, because it is just a ribosome. Nor does the nascent polypeptide “understand” that it is being hydrolyzed. Nor do tRNA “understand” that they must bind to their respective codons on mRNA. There is no transmission of conscious understanding, no abstract communication that entails one entity interprets symbols because it has the same understanding as the entity which communicated them. In this regard, DNA is not a language by definition. All that is happening is that the stop codon does not contain the binding site for any tRNA, but it does contain the binding site for the release factors which terminates translation because it causes the nascent polypeptide to hydrolyze an ester bond as they catalyze this hydrolysis reaction and release from the subunits of the ribosome.

Arguing from authority is always thrown back at the theist, but then an atheist does the same.  What is your point?  I can cite others that hold an opposing view.  Even the atheist poster boy Richard Dawkins referring to DNA as algorithm, code and instructions:

It is raining DNA outside. On the bank of the Oxford canal at the bottom of my garden is a large willow tree, and it is pumping downy seeds into the air. ... [spreading] DNA whose coded characters spell out specific instructions for building willow trees that will shed a new generation of downy seeds. … It is raining instructions out there; it's raining programs; it's raining tree-growing, fluff-spreading, algorithms. That is not a metaphor, it is the plain truth. It couldn't be any plainer if it were raining floppy discs. 
— Richard Dawkins
The Blind Watchmaker (1986), 111. 
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
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Messages In This Thread
Has Science done away with a need for God? - by Kingpin - July 27, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Has Science done away with a need for God? - by Lek - July 29, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Has Science done away with a need for God? - by Kingpin - July 29, 2015 at 5:37 pm
Has Science done away with a need for God? - by Kingpin - July 31, 2015 at 10:20 pm
Has Science done away with a need for God? - by Kingpin - July 31, 2015 at 11:36 pm
RE: Has Science done away with a need for God? - by IATIA - August 1, 2015 at 9:46 am

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