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Has Science done away with a need for God?
RE: Has Science done away with a need for God?
(July 29, 2015 at 6:10 pm)IATIA Wrote:
(July 29, 2015 at 5:21 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:


I disagree.  IMHO, DNA is a language of algorithms as much as any computer program.  If we completely understood DNA, we could read a strand of DNA just like a book.

The computer is not conscious or aware of the instructions that are performed and yet there is a useful result.  On the other hand, IMHO, we are conscious of the result of the chemical and electrical physiology of our bodies and yet had nothing to do with the process itself.  The only difference (barring the actual process) between us and computers is that we are aware of the result, but probably have no more control over the result than a computer.

The fact that the computer is not aware of the end results of the programming prevents that programming from being a language, because language is a modality of expression which conveys meaning. It is a language to us, because we can look at the instructions and deduce the purpose, but to a computer, BASIC is as Holy Roller jabbering is to us atheists. The cell does not understand that a particular gene means anything at all. That gene simply manufactures proteins in accordance with molecular valences, without regard to their significance. Otherwise, you'd have to define cancer as cellular malevolence, and a viral infection as cellular surrender. We both know that they are mechanistic events, not conscious decisions.

Language relies upon a conscious interchange between two agents. We call program algorithms "language" because we humans understand them, not because they are understood by the subject. The same is true with DNA; the codons do not convey abstract symbology, they only regulate molecular interactions via physical processes.

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Has Science done away with a need for God? - by Kingpin - July 27, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Has Science done away with a need for God? - by Lek - July 29, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Has Science done away with a need for God? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 29, 2015 at 6:35 pm
Has Science done away with a need for God? - by Kingpin - July 31, 2015 at 10:20 pm
Has Science done away with a need for God? - by Kingpin - July 31, 2015 at 11:36 pm
RE: Has Science done away with a need for God? - by IATIA - August 1, 2015 at 9:46 am

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