(July 30, 2015 at 10:14 am)Drich Wrote:(July 29, 2015 at 1:59 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Humans definitely do not have thought crimes in the same sense that the Bible does. For that brand of thought crime, someone has to literally read your mind, and the thought itself is the primary crime.So thinking gay marriage is wrong, and refusing to facilitate a gay marriage because of your thoughts is not a punishable crime in your imaginary world?
With both hate crime and conspiracy, some kind of provable, outward action has to occur. Neither is an actual thought crime, at least not in the sense I'm using the term. No human can punish you for your actual thoughts unless you somehow make them known, and to my knowledge there is no secular law that punishes a thought and nothing else.
I posted a fox news link that says otherwise. That pastors are threatened with jail unless they concent to marrying gay people in certain states.
Your story has been debunked, and you still present it as if it were accurate. Try reading it this time:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-35017-po...pid1007557
(July 28, 2015 at 4:58 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:(July 28, 2015 at 4:38 pm)Drich Wrote:
,actually no. The US is currently jailing pastors for not marrying gay couples.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/2...dings.html
To have a pastor perform a ceremony that is against his deeply held legitmate religious views is not freedom to practice religion sport, that is a state mandated religious practice. Something our bill'o rights says we do not have to do, but popular culture says we must.
Take another look at the article at your link. It is regarding "wedding chapels," not churches. Wedding chapels are basically businesses which marry people. Businesses are not allowed to discriminate. Churches are.
Also, as is often the case, Fox News is lying:
http://www.advocate.com/politics/marriag...ing-chapel
http://boisestatepublicradio.org/post/co...rights-law
Next time, try looking for a reputable news source.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.