(July 30, 2015 at 4:00 pm)Godschild Wrote:(July 30, 2015 at 8:39 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Agreed DH. GC at least on the surface seems to be exactly like the Pharisees in the Bible (you know the ones Jesus condemned for their attitude in Matthew 23). He forgets that Jesus accepted all and ate with sinners and never did he preach the "turn or burn". Those that call themselves Christian and act this way are not being Christian. This is exactly why Gandhi said: "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians." I would venture to say that MOST people are turned off from Christianity, not because of Jesus, but because of people in this world that call themselves Christians.
You have a high opinion of what you profess to believe and you believe I'm wrong, so how are you different than what you accuse me of being? How am I to take what you say seriously when you aren't even sure that Christ ever lived, 95% means you have doubts. I defend what I know is right and do not compromise to be accepted by those who disagree with me, like I see you doing. Other Christians have come here in the past with your attitude and I've dealt with them the same as I am doing with you, they're gone and I'm still here. Not saying I ran them off, I just believe they realized they couldn't defend their beliefs. Christ taught more about hell than you realize, He said the wise will avoid it. i want ever compromise my beliefs because I want compromise my savior, my popularity here means nothing, my Christ means everything.
GC
This begs the question, why are you here? This is a place to discuss opposing views with an open mind but you have the presupposition of a closed mind. You do not have to take me seriously GC, that is of little importance to me. I am merely pointing out that the language we use carries meaning and when used in the way you are using puts the burden of proof on you and the only defense you logically hold to is "because I personally know" which is not testable. Paul said always be prepared to give an answer for the hope that is in you. Which you indeed do, but the modern atheist cannot logically accept it because you claiming to have higher untestable knowledge. I am 95% certain, so that means I cannot be taken seriously? Thomas and James were doubters all the way through Christs life, should they be discounted? I do not know an apologist or honest free thinking Christian that has not wrestled with doubt at one point in their life. What's your point? I have faith in God in that I believe He is real and I believe the person of Jesus Christ was who He claimed to be and I understand the gospel message.
I never said you were wrong. I said it's not logically defensible to say you know something with certainty that is unverifiable. That is not persuasive for others to believe your claim only to show that you have knowledge they do not.
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