Quote:Okay, let's go down that path: let's find the philosophical evidence for lighting.
For lighting occurs, and is accompanied my great roars from the sky, who can
even dispute that it's Zeus throwing them and that the roars are his wrath??
I dont see how this proves anything?
We first of all we have to define what God is. I think its safe to say, that God is the creator, not the one who causes it to rain, snow, hail etc.
I like this quote from wikipedia:
Quote:Drange emphasizes that any stance on "Does god exist?" is made with respect to a particular concept of what one claims to consider "god" to represent:
Since the word "God" has many different meanings, it is possible for the sentence "God exists" to express many different propositions. What we need to do is to focus on each proposition separately. … For each different sense of the term "God," there will be theists, atheists, and agnostics relative to that concept of God.[7]
As god means very different things to different people, when the word is spoken, an ignostic may seek to determine if something like a child's definition of a god is meant or if a theologian's is intended instead. A theistic child's concept generally has a simple and coherent meaning, based on an anthropomorphic conception of god.[10] Many philosophers and theologians have rejected this conception of god while affirming belief in another conception of god, including St. Augustine, Maimonides, St. Thomas Aquinas, Baruch Spinoza, and Søren Kierkegaard.
Quote:Jesus explains why he speaks in parables to confuse people so they will go to hell. Mark 4:11-12
I dont see how?
Quote:so you are invoking the no true Scotsman fallacy? Not even "I would not be a christian" but a "theist"??? you are telling me that all those christians and muslims that believe in hell are not theists? but wait, that'd mean they're *drumroll** atheists!!! yess !!! we have a great boost in numbers!!!! thanks!!!!!!!
Some of the greatest theists have believed in hell. I wouldnt be a theist if I believed in an eternal hell, that is all I meant.
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.
You dont hate God, you hate the church game.
"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine
Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
You dont hate God, you hate the church game.
"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine
Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer