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the slippery "F" word - my solution
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RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution
Quote:ok bad example, here are a few references to hell in the Bible:

2 Peter 2:4-5 says, "For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment."

Mark 9:46 describes hell as: "Their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."

Matthew 8:12 says, "But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Isaiah 66:24 reads: "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."

Daniel 12:2 describes the duration of hell: "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

Luke 16:22-24 uses a parable to describe hell: "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'"

Luke 12:5 says, "But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him."

Mark 9:47 says, "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell."

Matthew 23:33 reads: "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?"

Revelation 19:20 talks about the fiery lake: "But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur."

Two things. Forever in Jewish think was not infinite, it was an unknown amout of time. Hell will last as long as it take, but it will end at some point. Another, is hell really a fiery place? Its sounds to cliche to be true. Perhaps it is perhaps it isnt. The bible says hell is going to be a fiery palce, but it also says there is not going to be any ocean on the New Earth, we should understand the context.

Quote:Excellent, then what you are saying is that means all of the christians who DO believe in an eternal hell, as well as all the other religions that do are all atheists. While fewer than those who believe in hell overall, still quite a few more for us.

I never said that.

Quote:I'd like to disagree with the OP as well - it's IRRELEVANT whether one LIKES anything in the bible or not, what matters is if the supernatural claims in it are true. I have seen no reason to think that.

The real question is; should we read the Bible as fundie or a theologian?

Quote:why what evidence do you have? I have no reason to think this

What created the universe?

Note: I believe He exists, I dont have proofs.
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.

You dont hate God, you hate the church game.

"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine

Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
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the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 17, 2010 at 3:10 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by rob_hollar - October 17, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 17, 2010 at 3:28 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by Hollenfeuer - October 17, 2010 at 3:51 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 17, 2010 at 4:22 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by Amethyst - October 17, 2010 at 3:29 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 17, 2010 at 3:47 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by Amethyst - October 17, 2010 at 5:25 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by theVOID - October 17, 2010 at 5:41 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by Amethyst - October 21, 2010 at 7:36 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by orogenicman - October 17, 2010 at 4:29 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 17, 2010 at 4:41 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by Anomalocaris - October 17, 2010 at 6:18 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by theVOID - October 17, 2010 at 6:25 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by solja247 - October 18, 2010 at 3:54 am
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by LastPoet - October 18, 2010 at 8:28 am
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by solja247 - October 23, 2010 at 5:07 am
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by downbeatplumb - October 23, 2010 at 12:15 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by Volt - October 24, 2010 at 12:30 am
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by Amethyst - October 23, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 23, 2010 at 6:59 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by solja247 - October 24, 2010 at 12:37 am
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 24, 2010 at 4:35 am
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by Amethyst - October 24, 2010 at 8:56 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 25, 2010 at 11:07 am
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by Anomalocaris - October 25, 2010 at 1:01 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 25, 2010 at 7:19 pm
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by solja247 - October 24, 2010 at 6:27 am
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 24, 2010 at 7:16 am
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by solja247 - October 24, 2010 at 7:34 am
RE: the slippery "F" word - my solution - by yuriythebest - October 24, 2010 at 11:12 am

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