(August 2, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: 1. Of course the fact that Genesis doesn’t say anything about punishment of the soul does not necessarily mean that you can’t add it if it fits your narrative. The bible tells us what happens to the spirit after the body dies
”Ecclesiastic’s 12:7” Wrote:Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.And what does God then do with the spirit?
And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment (Hebrews 9:27)
(August 2, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I did not write this book so you’re not arguing against me.Then with whom am I having this conversation???![]()
(August 2, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: 2. You say no one goes to hell for Adam’s sin. But that is what the mainstream Church teaches. Are you being contrary just to be contrary or do you come from some persuasion other than evangelical Christianity?Only Adam could potentially go to hell for Adam's sin. Scripturally it would appear that Adam was covered by the blood of Christ and did not go to hell. Therefore, no one is going to hell for Adam's sin.
(August 2, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: 3. Neither Abraham’s Bosom nor Hell as a place of torment exist in the Old Testament. They are both constructs of apocalyptic Judaism. This is not just a change in dispensation but a total restructuring of divine reality and cosmology. This cannot be permitted with a god who supposedly never changes.I repeat the previous question, is your argument then that because the word's "Abraham's Bosom" don't appear in the OT hell doesn't exist?
(August 2, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: 4. The verse you quote from 2 Thessalonians says nothing about the Book of Life.It wasn't meant to. You wrote that:
Quote:However, since nowhere else in the Bible do we see anyone going to hell for what they did or did not believe, this interpretation lacks credibility."You wrote "nowhere else," as in no place in the Bible, do we see anyone going to hell for what they did or did not believe. Yet 2 Thessalonians 1:7 states "when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his power."
(August 2, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: 5. What is the gospel of Christ? The Church says we have to confess Jesus as lord. But Jesus said everybody who calls him lord will not enter his kingdom.
1 Corinthians 15:1:-4 "Moreover brethren I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are saved if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures."
(August 2, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: None of your arguments can be supported without adding something to the scriptures that isn’t there. Read the last verses of Revelations to see what will be added to you.You didn't address Revelation 20:11-15:
"And I saw a great white throne and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead small and great, stand before God and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them; and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
Jesus will be sitting on a great white throne. Books are opened of two categories, one the book of life, and two the books that are an account of the works of each man. At the great white throne judgment, there exist only people being judged by their works.
And what do we learn about people seeking to be judged by their works? Galatians 3:10-11 says:
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, the just shall live by faith."
The logical conclusion here is that no one's [who seeks to be justified by works and is therefore at the great white throne judgment] name will be found in the book of life.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?