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I don't care about bible contradictions.
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I don't care about bible contradictions.
There are a constant series of threads that nitpick various bible quotes where it contradicts with itself in some way or another. Of course this isn't surprising because the bible was written by dozens of people over the course of a millennia+. As an Atheist it comes as no surprise that there are contradictions. There is a far bigger problem with the bible then it contradicting with itself. It contradicts with the fundamental nature of the universe. I think to even point on contradictions with itself is to give the bible too much validity to start with. Both the old testament and new are so full of nonsense and fables that we know are false that it doesn't matter to me what else it says. The constant references to witches, demons, magic, angels, people living to be hundreds of years old, talking animals are enough for me to dismiss it's validity without having to nitpick small passages against each other.
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#2
RE: I don't care about bible contradictions.
Even if the bible wasn't as contradictory as it is, it would still be full of shit

the little nitpicked passages that contradict themselves are important to me, because I used to believe the bible was the word of god, the ultimate truth, an absolutely infallible book. I was coerced into unreasonable respect for it, and looking at the small, obviously human mistakes inside it helps me (personally) overcome that fear and see it for the manmade Frankenstein's monster of a silly book that it is

I get what you're saying, but biblical contradictions are helpful in the process of deconverting.....well at least they are to me

Please don't capitalize 'atheist' ._.
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RE: I don't care about bible contradictions.
The contradictions are great fun to toss in the faces of fundie shitheads who insist there are none.  Nothing more.

You gotta make your own fun sometimes, Capn'.
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RE: I don't care about bible contradictions.
I think you have to look at it as a layered thing - built on a foundation of lies, constructed using a framework of fabrication, with bullshit bricks and exaggeration mortar. On every level there are things that don't work, that contradict, that make no damn sense, that require the most extraordinary leaps of faith and mental gymnastics.
Internal contradictions make up a small part of this, but they are still worth pointing out.
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(June 14, 2015 at 1:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The contradictions are great fun to toss in the faces of fundie shitheads who insist there are none.  Nothing more.

You gotta make your own fun sometimes, Capn'.

It's like a card game 

Theists: I play thou shall not kill

Atheist: Nuh uh i play god going back on his word

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Theists: i play the ten commandments.

Atheist: I play angry Moses destroying the commandments.
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Even if the bible was internally consistent it wouldn't matter. Harry Potter is internally consistent and that is no more real.
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Bible disproving itself eliminates any need to invoke the ultra-super-duper-mega-plethora of external evidence that disproves it too. Makes it more fun to torment the fucktard christers by staying entirely intramural.

And as bad as the bible is, you would not believe (well, maybe you would) just how much WORSE the Book of Mormon is.
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(June 14, 2015 at 1:35 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: Even if the bible wasn't as contradictory as it is, it would still be full of shit

the little nitpicked passages that contradict themselves are important to me, because I used to believe the bible was the word of god, the ultimate truth, an absolutely infallible book. I was coerced into unreasonable respect for it, and looking at the small, obviously human mistakes inside it helps me (personally) overcome that fear and see it for the manmade Frankenstein's monster of a silly book that it is

I get what you're saying, but biblical contradictions are helpful in the process of deconverting.....well at least they are to me

Please don't capitalize 'atheist' ._.

I like to capitalize Atheist and not capitalize god.
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RE: I don't care about bible contradictions.
(June 14, 2015 at 1:53 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(June 14, 2015 at 1:35 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: Even if the bible wasn't as contradictory as it is, it would still be full of shit

the little nitpicked passages that contradict themselves are important to me, because I used to believe the bible was the word of god, the ultimate truth, an absolutely infallible book. I was coerced into unreasonable respect for it, and looking at the small, obviously human mistakes inside it helps me (personally) overcome that fear and see it for the manmade Frankenstein's monster of a silly book that it is

I get what you're saying, but biblical contradictions are helpful in the process of deconverting.....well at least they are to me

Please don't capitalize 'atheist' ._.

I like to capitalize Atheist and not capitalize god.
It's all good i know what you were getting at.
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RE: I don't care about bible contradictions.
(June 14, 2015 at 1:45 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Bible disproving itself eliminates any need to invoke the ultra-super-duper-mega-plethora of external evidence that disproves it too.  Makes it more fun to torment the fucktard christers by staying entirely intramural.

And as bad as the bible is, you would not believe (well, maybe you would) just how much WORSE the Book of Mormon is.

I agree.  If one can destroy it from the inside, it works much better than if one is going to try to use something external to disprove it.  After all, the religionist can simply deny the truth of whatever external thing is put forth as evidence against it.  But with Bible contradictions, they cannot just dismiss one of the claims without rejecting the idea that the Bible is all the word of God and is therefore correct.  Of course, they try to "reinterpret" one or the other of the contradictory things to eliminate the contradiction, but that wears thin after a while for those who are not completely brain dead.

I think some of the best sorts of contradictions are the ones that are not explicit, like the fact that Jesus parents are told (before he was born) that Jesus is God's son, and then later on we have things like:

Luke 2:

41 Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
45 And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.
46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.


The thing is, if the earlier story were true, that an angel visited Joseph and Mary and told them about God being the father, with Mary still a virgin, that is not the kind of thing that they could forget even if they wanted to.  So when Jesus later on talks about doing his father's business, they would obviously know what that meant, unless that earlier story were a total falsehood.

I have never heard a credible story from any Christian for these sorts of things, and they are the kind of thing that cause doubt for Christians who are not totally brain dead.  And it does not rely on believing any source other than what is in the Bible.  The stories are just not compatible with each other, so at least one of them must be false.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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