(August 1, 2015 at 10:57 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: If spontaneous creation means the Universe can get started from nothing with no gods to help it, then, yeah, I believe that's possible. I also believe it's possible that some form of material reality has always existed. Which is it? Hell if I know. Neither model requires god, though, let alone some magical consciousness that lives in everything.
Spontaneous creation is a fluke just like spontaneous generation which was dispelled by Louis Pasteur in the 19 century. Therefore this whole notion of coming from nothing is not science but science fiction.