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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?

August 3, 2015 at 11:24 am (This post was last modified: August 3, 2015 at 11:25 am by Kingpin.)

(August 1, 2015 at 11:23 am)IATIA Wrote: If first cause can 'just be', then everything can 'just be'.

I don't see the logical conclusion from your premise. Unless you are assuming that everything in existence has always existed (even you) but perhaps in a different form or state (Pantheism)? Just because one thing can be something does not mean everything can also be that. Everything physical no matter how you slice it can only explain its existence outside itself.

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