(August 3, 2015 at 11:24 am)lkingpinl Wrote:(August 1, 2015 at 11:23 am)IATIA Wrote: If first cause can 'just be', then everything can 'just be'.
I don't see the logical conclusion from your premise. Unless you are assuming that everything in existence has always existed (even you) but perhaps in a different form or state (Pantheism)? Just because one thing can be something does not mean everything can also be that. Everything physical no matter how you slice it can only explain its existence outside itself.
I assume that you believe in god and that it always existed. If your god has no beginning then it must just be. If your omnipotent, omnipresent god can just be, then why cannot the universe just be rather than bring in an illogical possibility like god?
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
