atheism and children

[robvalue]

Thank you Alex I appreciate people taking the time to consider my position. All I'm saying is there are issues involved, and you've acknowledged that. It's the people who flat out refuse to admit there is anything to even think about who confuse me. I don't see how all of my talking points can be dismissed as nothing.

I agree, I'm not proposing overpopulation be dealt with simply by some people not having kids, just that it's a factor.

Yes, I've been called selfish for deciding to not have kids. That is utterly ridiculous in my opinion and people who think that should get bent. You could argue I am selfish for not adopting, that is true. I couldn't adopt even if I wanted to, as it happens, due to my circumstances.

I missed out a point:

7- The amount of waste/resource consumption from the new life.

My points are things to consider, not me saying "don't do it for this reason".

PS regarding consent: If something cannot give consent, then it's my position that we should consider what is best for it, not do what we want with it. Therefor it's not automatically good or even neutral to bring a potential life into the world, because it's not necessarily in its best interest. This is, of course, a matter of opinion and debate. I oppose the idea that life is by definition "worth living" as a universal truth. Life is a blessing and a curse. It's an opportunity, but also a prison sentence.

At the end of the day these are just my thoughts and don't matter to anything except for the purposes of discussion.