RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
August 9, 2015 at 3:32 am
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2015 at 3:50 am by Lucanus.)
(August 9, 2015 at 2:51 am)Little Rik Wrote: If you mistreat your body it is obvious that also your consciousness will be affected.
It is like if you mistreat your vehicle.
How can you proceed with a damage vehicle?
But that's exactly the point! You can't proceed with a damaged vehicle because its function is correlated to its structure. Same for the brain: if it's damaged enough, it can't work ==> no consciousness!
(August 9, 2015 at 2:51 am)Little Rik Wrote: What doesn't make sense is your guessing that if the brain die also the consciousness die.
There is anything thing that really die and disappear in this universe?
If you study physics you should know that nothing die or disappear so why the consciousness
should die and disappear?
Ok, you completely misunderstand the principle of conservation of mass and energy. In physics, what is conserved (doesn't die or disappear, in your words) is mass
What makes our brain work, and what ultimately produces our consciousness (since no matter how hard you wish, there is no evidence of consciousness existing outside of physical structures) is a pattern of energy and matter; more specifically it's a specific pattern of neurons firing electrical signals through their axons, forming synapses with other neurons, communicating and integrating signals from all parts of the body.
With death, this pattern ceases to exist: this does not mean that the matter and energies involved are destroyed. They dissipate and change form: the electrochemical gradients reach equilibrium, heat dissipates, and the very chemicals we use as a source of energy are eaten by the organisms that provide for our decomposition. Or, if you wanna go with a bang, all your chemical energy gets burned up in a cremation, and the matter that made up your body turns to ashes, vapour and cinder.
(August 9, 2015 at 2:51 am)Little Rik Wrote: By the way the consciousness is not made of matter like the brain so how can something
abstract can be killed?
What is it made of? Can you cite some studies on the nature of consciousness that prove your point?
(August 9, 2015 at 2:51 am)Little Rik Wrote: Mine is a believe not a claim.
My believe is that there is a very good reason why we can't remember our previous lives.
In this life we find difficult, annoying and frustration to think about our past mistakes and
bad thing that we have done.
At times we just think that would be better if we never done certain things but is too late.
The problem however is that we just can't get rid from our mind these things from the past.
It is a burden to us.
Now just imagine if on the top of our mistakes in this life we also have to deal with mistakes from previous lives and lives before that.
It would be an absolute hell that is why we are prevented from remember anything from previous lives.
Someone understand the problem therefore this entity prevent us from remembering.
Beliefs are claims, Rik. By believing something (idk, say that Rocco Siffredi's dick is 30cm long) you *are* claiming that Rocco Siffredi's dick is indeed 30 cm long. And you can verify your beliefs by watching a movie with Rocco Siffredi and well... I think you get that.
The problems arise when you cling on to your beliefs even when they are proven to be false, or when (and it's even worse) you formulate your beliefs in ways that are impossible to verify or falsify. That is just childish intellectual dishonesty.
Redbeard the Pink Wrote:Until you have proof, you're just making fun of others for not believing that dragons splooged on your homework.
You, sir, deserve a rep.
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Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
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Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."