(August 9, 2015 at 3:03 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:(August 9, 2015 at 2:51 am)Little Rik Wrote: If you mistreat your body it is obvious that also your consciousness will be affected.
It is like if you mistreat your vehicle.
How can you proceed with a damage vehicle?
You can loose a lot of consciousness but you also can expand your consciousness
provided you treat your body-brain properly so your first point make sense.
What doesn't make sense is your guessing that if the brain die also the consciousness die.
There is anything thing that really die and disappear in this universe?
If you study physics you should know that nothing die or disappear so why the consciousness
should die and disappear?
By the way the consciousness is not made of matter like the brain so how can something
abstract can be killed?
Mine is a believe not a claim.
My believe is that there is a very good reason why we can't remember our previous lives.
In this life we find difficult, annoying and frustration to think about our past mistakes and
bad thing that we have done.
At times we just think that would be better if we never done certain things but is too late.
The problem however is that we just can't get rid from our mind these things from the past.
It is a burden to us.
Now just imagine if on the top of our mistakes in this life we also have to deal with mistakes from previous lives and lives before that.
It would be an absolute hell that is why we are prevented from remember anything from previous lives.
Someone understand the problem therefore this entity prevent us from remembering.
Nice claims. Let's see some evidence.
Beliefs not claims, you say? A belief becomes a claim the moment you give it voice. You are making claims. Prove them.
You claim that the consciousness does not die when the brain does. That is a positive claim. Prove it.
You claim that reincarnation exists and is a thing that happens. That is a positive claim. Prove it.
You claim there is an entity with the power to wipe our memories between lives. That is a positive claim. Prove it.
Until you have proof, you're just making fun of others for not believing that dragons splooged on your homework.
Physically speaking we know that under the visible iceberg there is a bigger chunk of ice under the water.
Consciousness is like an iceberg.
We are aware of that part above but not of the part below.
We may understand that there is a bigger chunk below but as far as we can not make it part of ourselves
we just don't know what is all about.
This is your problem Pinky.
You are not interested in knowing what is behind the small amount of consciousness and yet you draw
conclusions based on that little that you know.
To expand our consciousness it takes a lot of hard work and that work is called spirituality.
Why should i make a claim with you about the consciousness that i am aware of when in fact all your knowledge is based on that little that you know.
It is obvious that you would reject the claim considering that your knowledge is based on the little and not on the big which lie under the outer mind.
That is why i say my believe and not my claim.
Consciousness is awareness of who you really are so by knowing who you really are you also know how the system works.
If you only would expand your consciousness you would automatically understand all these points but the
hard reality is that you don't
Nice misappropriation of the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy, by the way. You learn that from Deepak Chopra? Consciousness is the result of matter and energy, but it is not itself matter or energy. Consciousness is a process of the brain, and when the brain stops producing it, it stops happening. The matter and energy in the brain are still there, but they're no longer being used to generate consciousness. Nothing disappears, nothing is lost, and yet the process stops.
Once again you show that your knowledge about this issue is based 100% on physical science.
Consciousness is not something physical Pinky so how can physical science know where consciousness come from?
But let us proceed step by step.
First let me have a bit of fun.
You say that ..........Consciousness is the result of matter and energy
.......and at the same time you guys ridicule the idea that a rock is lacking or can not create consciousness.
The brain is made of matter also but according to you guys one type of matter can generate consciousness while an other type of matter can not.
Are you racist or what?
You are just very funny.
A rock after million of years will turn into soil and feed plants, the plants will feed animals or humans so everything get transformed all the time physically speaking but what about the consciousness?
Animals have consciousness, plants too so why rocks don't have consciousness?
Where the consciousness start and where it stop then?
You guys put limits where limits don't make any sense.
Energy and consciousness always go hand in hand like the pages in sheet of paper.
Rocks got energy within so there got to be consciousness in it.
Your problem is that you do not understand that consciousness goes in degree which means
being more or less aware of who he-she is.
A rock has got the lowest degree of consciousness that is why t can not move or do anything so far.
Physical science is not really interested in knowing whether the energy goes hand in hand with consciousness so no wonder that people like you that rely 100% on physical science will never know how the system works.
