Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)

[Lucanus]

Nice claims. Let's see some evidence.
Beliefs not claims, you say? A belief becomes a claim the moment you give it voice. You are making claims. Prove them.
You claim that the consciousness does not die when the brain does. That is a positive claim. Prove it.
You claim that reincarnation exists and is a thing that happens. That is a positive claim. Prove it.
You claim there is an entity with the power to wipe our memories between lives. That is a positive claim. Prove it.
Until you have proof, you're just making fun of others for not believing that dragons splooged on your homework.

Physically speaking we know that under the visible iceberg there is a bigger chunk of ice under the water.
Consciousness is like an iceberg.
We are aware of that part above but not of the part below.
We may understand that there is a bigger chunk below but as far as we can not make it part of ourselves
we just don't know what is all about.
This is your problem Pinky.
You are not interested in knowing what is behind the small amount of consciousness and yet you draw
conclusions based on that little that you know.

Of course we make conclusions based on "what little we know"! Science is based on what we can observe and starts from observation to get to conclusions. The fact that science has not yet explained everything doesn't mean that every explanation is equally possible though. And we've seen through history that all supernatural explanations were wrong, while the reductionist/materialist explanations were better descriptions of reality.

To expand our consciousness it takes a lot of hard work and that work is called spirituality.

OK, what does it mean "to expand your consciousness "? What happens when you do? And what is spirituality? Is it repeatable and verifiable? If it isn't, it's BULLSHIT.

Why should i make a claim with you about the consciousness that i am aware of when in fact all your knowledge is based on that little that you know.
It is obvious that you would reject the claim considering that your knowledge is based on the little and not on the big which lie under the outer mind.

What even *is* " the big that lies under the outer mind"? How do you prove it's real? If you want to convince other people that your beliefs have some truth in them, then please explain the reasoning behind them!

That is why i say my believe and not my claim.
Consciousness is awareness of who you really are so by knowing who you really are you also know how the system works.
If you only would expand your consciousness you would automatically understand all these points but the
hard reality is that you don't  

This is word salad and doesn't even make sense in English.

Nice misappropriation of the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy, by the way. You learn that from Deepak Chopra? Consciousness is the result of matter and energy, but it is not itself matter or energy. Consciousness is a process of the brain, and when the brain stops producing it, it stops happening. The matter and energy in the brain are still there, but they're no longer being used to generate consciousness. Nothing disappears, nothing is lost, and yet the process stops.

Once again you show that your knowledge about this issue is based 100% on physical science.
Consciousness is not something physical Pinky so how can physical science know where consciousness come from?

If consciousness is not something explainable by the laws of physics as we know them then FUCKING PROVE IT! Show us the evidence and we'll believe you!

But let us proceed step by step.
First let me have a bit of fun.
You say that ..........Consciousness is the result of matter and energy
.......and at the same time you guys ridicule the idea that a rock is lacking or can not create consciousness.
The brain is made of matter also but according to you guys one type of matter can generate consciousness while an other type of matter can not.
Are you racist or what?  
You are just very funny.

Ok Rik don't shit your pants, now I'm going to show you two images: one is an inert mineral with a rather simple chemical composition and structure, and another is a complex-as-shit network of highly specialised biotic structures. Do they look capable of doing the same things to you?

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A rock after million of years will turn into soil and feed plants, the plants will feed animals or humans so everything get transformed all the time physically speaking but what about the consciousness?
Animals have consciousness, plants too so why rocks don't have consciousness?

I can hear generations of geologists from all over the world turning and twisting inside of their graves. Rocks don't turn into soil. Soil comes from the decomposition of living matter. If anything, rocks turn into sand.

And consciousness depends on the capability of responding to external stimuli, which animals can do to a great extent, plants not so much but to a certain degree (and due to their lack of integration centres I wouldn't define them as conscious), and rocks don't because they're fucking rocks and not living organisms with a complex chemistry.

why am i doing this to myself?

Where the consciousness start and where it stop then?
You guys put limits where limits don't make any sense.

You know what? I'll plead guilty, guilty as charged! I always think there could be a limit to your stupidity but you always surprise me! Now, for your next treasure of scientific knowledge and logic:

Energy and consciousness always go hand in hand like the pages in sheet of paper.
Rocks got energy within so there got to be consciousness in it.
Your problem is that you do not understand that consciousness goes in degree which means
being more or less aware of who he-she is.
A rock has got the lowest degree of consciousness that is why t can not move or do anything so far.
Physical science is not really interested in knowing whether the energy goes hand in hand with consciousness so no wonder that people like you that rely 100% on physical science will never know how the system works.  

There's so much wrong with this that I don't even know where to start. Energy and consciousness don't always go hand in hand. Energy goes hand in hand with consciousness in the brain (and even then, considering that energy is transferred with the movement of ions and neurotransmitters, it is linked to specific structures of matter). It's not been proven to be elsewhere. If you think rocks have a degree of consciousness, again PROVE IT.