(August 11, 2015 at 9:32 am)Little Rik Wrote: Holy, holy Rob.
You are in a total mental mess.
There is no such a thing as a philosophical naturalist.
Philosophy is all about wisdom and wisdom can not come from a limited arena as the universe
in which the positive and negative always balance each other.
On the contrary the definition given for the word philosophical naturalist mean someone who believe that the natural world is all there is.
How the hell can someone who believe that the natural world is all there is and at the same time talk about philosophy which goes outside the physical world.
Total madness Rob.
At the risk of sounding like a Scientologist, Rik, your primary and foremost problem is that you do not understand the definitions of certain words that you're using. Considering that English is your second language, I could probably let this slide, only you sound exactly like the kind of charlatan who just redefines words when it's convenient, so I guess that's what I've been presuming you were actually doing. I'm betting you do the exact same thing in Italian.
Philosophy is not inherently tied to the supernatural. Hell, not even religion is inherently tied to the supernatural. The supernatural isn't exclusively tied to religion, for that matter.
Philosophy is the study of knowledge, truth, the nature and meaning of life, etc. While a lot of woo and religion gets injected into it, philosophy in its purest form has nothing to do with the supernatural and everything to do with pondering what we are and why we're here. The supernatural is not required for that in any way.
The Universe encompasses everything that naturally exists. We don't actually know if it's finite or infinite, or what its absolute limits are. For you to call something as large and all-encompassing as the Universe a "limited arena" is a statement of broad ignorance and cretinism. People who can look at the natural Universe and feel like there needs to be something more just don't make any sense to me. The natural world is a massive, complex place that we barely understand, and to me that's magical enough without having to paint a bunch of cartoon characters over the parts we don't understand yet.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
