(August 11, 2015 at 10:03 am)Little Rik Wrote:(August 11, 2015 at 9:42 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: At the risk of sounding like a Scientologist, Rik, your primary and foremost problem is that you do not understand the definitions of certain words that you're using. Considering that English is your second language, I could probably let this slide, only you sound exactly like the kind of charlatan who just redefines words when it's convenient, so I guess that's what I've been presuming you were actually doing. I'm betting you do the exact same thing in Italian.
Philosophy is not inherently tied to the supernatural. Hell, not even religion is inherently tied to the supernatural. The supernatural isn't exclusively tied to religion, for that matter.
Philosophy is the study of knowledge, truth, the nature and meaning of life, etc. While a lot of woo and religion gets injected into it, philosophy in its purest form has nothing to do with the supernatural and everything to do with pondering what we are and why we're here. The supernatural is not required for that in any way.
The Universe encompasses everything that naturally exists. We don't actually know if it's finite or infinite, or what its absolute limits are. For you to call something as large and all-encompassing as the Universe a "limited arena" is a statement of broad ignorance and cretinism. People who can look at the natural Universe and feel like there needs to be something more just don't make any sense to me. The natural world is a massive, complex place that we barely understand, and to me that's magical enough without having to paint a bunch of cartoon characters over the parts we don't understand yet.
Holy, holy Pinky you are as bad as Rob.
You just remind me something about my younger years when i was living in Italy.
In summer i used to go in the Adriatic riviera where i could see thousand of north europeans
there for their holidays.
What it came in my mind was that if all these outsiders were coming in Italy Italy must be the best place on earth.
Well, well, how wrong i was.
Later on when i started travelling around the globe i found out that there are better places than
Italy especially here in Australia so my views changed so much.
You act exactly in the same way.
As a materialist you think that the physical universe is all there is but you never allow your consciousness take you in better places so you have build a dogma in your mind that the universe is the only thing there is.
Sad Pinky, very sad but as i did wake up also you can so all the best for your next trip within.
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
