(October 25, 2010 at 3:12 pm)Skipper Wrote: Ignoring the fact it was technically god sacrificing himself to himself for the sin he himself created I'd like to know peoples opinions. If Jesus was guaranteed to live in Heaven for eternity and be the focus of billions of peoples worship and praise how is his dying on the cross a sacrifice at all? How is it relevant to the faith and how is it seen a selfless act? and as a side note how is him dying the cure for all previous and future sin?
I'd go through whatever pain you could think of if I was to then go on to live forever in the sky world with sky daddy and the praise and love of half the earth.
Thoughts?
He (Jesus) sacrificed his time, comfort, and some amount of his pride. His life carried on in his afterdeath... and he returned somewhat selfishly, wishing to be seen as a miracle of some sort. He was probably just vain.
Did he sacrifice his wealth when he preached to the poor about the crime of wealth? He did not. He was brought great treasures sometime after his birth, and likely lured fishermen away from their job (much to their father's displeasure, I expect) with a combination of his magic tricks and wealth. He even used his godly powers to ease life for him (ie: the feeding of 5,000(?), raising people from the dead to prove his power).
I think he was very selfish.... always Me, Me, Me, and Me. Obey *MY* laws, observe *MY* holidays, lead *MY* people. And then when he came down to earth it was still Me, Me, Me, and Me. Believing in *ME* is the only way into heaven. Hell, any heaven such a disgustingly selfish person can imagine is probably more akin to my idea of a hell.
Sacrifice? I've seen much greater sacrifices than the one displayed Jesus.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
