(October 28, 2010 at 6:07 am)solja247 Wrote: Ok so I created a thread called, 'Where did Jesus get His morality' and for some reason a lot of people doubt Jesus's existence.
So I would love to see some credible books and encyclopedias saying that Jesus did not exist.
Do you count the Bible as a credible book? I don't but this is the only book that offers any detailed account of the alleged life or ministry of Jesus.
See 1John 4:1-3
Quote:Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
and 2John 1:7
Quote:For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Read both passages between the lines and we learn:
1. There were early Christians who did not believe in a flesh and blood Jesus. If we take seriously that this account is from John, these Christians had lived within the lifetime of those who would have known Jesus.
2. These early Christians were a problem for the church since two of three of John's epistles that were adopted by the Church into the Bible speak of these Christians.
3. John chooses to blame this belief on demonic possession and the efforts of antichrists instead of ridicule. After all, if these early Christians were denying an obvious historical reality, why not rely on references to Jesus' family, eye-witness accounts and other accounts that he was a real flesh-and-blood human being?
4. John is apparently unable to find any facts with which to refute these early Christians and instead invokes the language of faith. "Believe" and "confess" that Jesus was a flesh-and-blood being.
JC's bullcrap, this I know,
for the Bible tells me so.
John's epistles say as much.
Used his faith then as a crutch.
Yes, JC's bullshit.
Yes, JC's bullshit.
Yes, JC's bullshit.
The Bible tells me so.
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