christian looking to understand athiests

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if you are suggesting that these decisions are just an illusion and we are all being controlled and decieved i think that is a whole other subject

There is pretty good evidence that our "choices" are actually an illusion. Your brain, on the quantum level, is a machine which operates by certain parameters. There is evidence that everything you do is inevitable.

then this whole conversation is just being typed out by some other force that is controlling our lives so if that is true then there is really nothing we can do about that and our lives would have no meaning

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there really is no discussion here if you are just going to shoot down everything i say.

And so we are supposed to accept everything you say because you think some silly 'god' is real?  Do take a close look at the banner on this site.  It might help you understand what you are up against.  Your god is not going to help you.

Jesus does not cause any of this. because of our fallen world the Devil is constantly causing bad in the world.

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You'd think he would make exceptions when his followers ask for something. There's even a verse in the bible that says as and you shall receive, for what parent would give a child a stone when he asks for bread? If praying isn't consistent, there's no reason to pray. If following someone doesn't give you results, there's no reason to follow someone.

God wont automatically grant any prayer you pray just because your saved.  if he does not answer a prayer how you want immediately it means he has a plan that could be better then what you prayed