(August 19, 2015 at 12:43 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(August 18, 2015 at 9:06 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Thanks jorgmunder quick question
Did blondie24 or the evolved antenna occur by unguided natural means or was there a person behind initial programming and designing it to have those capabilities?
There was a person behind initial programming. There was no person designing it to have those capabilities. That's the point. While the initial scaffolding is designed by a person, the antennae and checkers playing abilities evolved without human input. What is the relevance of the initial conditions to the final outputs?
We might ask whether your parents were responsible for you and your abilities? If we are talking about your initial configuration, the answer may be yes. But if we're referring to skills you learned later in life, it's disingenuous to say that it was all your parents' input. Clearly there is a distinction to be made here between the initial programming and the final result. Or do you not take credit for anything which you learn on your own?
But you see the point is this is basically analogous to Deism. There is an initial creator of intelligence that sets forth the initial parameters that will allow the complexity to emerge. It still requires an intelligent first cause. The examples you gave are not unguided, but require an intelligent first cause.
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