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Oh, You Talk to God, That’s Cool! I Need Some Answers
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RE: Oh, You Talk to God, That’s Cool! I Need Some Answers
(August 19, 2015 at 2:54 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: I’ve heard many claims of god, by you, and others, and haven’t come across one as of yet.
What makes you think God has to speak to you the way He speaks to me? God gives us exactly what we need to start and maintain our faith. Why would He approach you with what I need, or what someone else needs? unless you are the exact same person? No what we must do is learn who God is by Asking and Seeking, and over time (knocking) will be able to identify God in our daily lives.

Quote:You’re right, not everyone wants to worship the god of the bible, because they don’t believe in it at all.
The why is nothing more than a confirmation bias at work, as your example shows. You don't want to worship therefore you seek a reason.

Quote: Do you want to worship the gods of Hindu? No, you say? Interesting, I’m sure some are saying your exact argument about you right now. Again, why wouldn’t god want to steer them in the correct direction?
See perfect example of a confirmation bias at work.

Quote:I don’t understand that answer.
Let's say you ask God for the Holy Spirit as Luke 11 states. Then you receive Him and start to exhibit signs of the Spirit/Fruit. To which you are faith and later exhibit Spiritual gifts. Abilities far beyond your own efforts to manifest them. for a list google spiritual gifts and Fruit of the Spirit.

Quote:That's not how prayer works in Christianity nor in Islam.
Prayer in Islam is a form of worship, meaning the purpose is only to give their God glory.
http://islam.about.com/od/prayer/ht/pray.htm


Quote:What makes you think God does answer their prayers? God is not the only being out their answering 'prayers.'

Quote:This should cover some of your other responses as well. There are stories in other religions that god does answer their prayers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer In Germanic paganism, god answers their prayers, as well as others.
wiki says they have no such page with that specific title.
Besides you specific mentioned Islam and Judism. Before you red herring in some exception clause you need to concede that the two religions you mentioned do not offer a relationship between the average believer and their God.
Quote:My next line in the last post will tell you. “A few thousand years ago, god cared so much when people didn’t worship him, that he commanded Moses to massacre people that didn’t worship the correct version of him, but in present-day reality, he longer does that. Why did the unchanging god change his strategy from massacring people, to doing absolutely nothing?”
and my next line explains that in the bible itself God's plan was not to have only one religion but to preserve the line/linage of Christ.

Quote:You’d think you’d see christians massacring other religions because of their god telling them to do so, if your book was true, which would lead to one religion.
Show me book chapter and verse where God commands that Christians kill anyone. If you can't know that is not a mandate of God or the religion.

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If you actually talked to god, you’d be able to put forth a cogent justification for your god, and who knows.. MAYBE, actually provide proof of its existence. You’d think that your amazingly intelligent god would actually make you smarter, and not cause you to constantly spew fallacious bullshit, by trying to shift the burden of proof on others as your argument.

Who are you speak about? do you have examples?

Quote:Just read all of your dodges. How about your attempt at answering the straightforward question about why women are unclean for double the amount of time depending on if they give birth to a boy or a girl?
ROFLOL I love it when you guys identify a 'dodge' as a sound biblically based answer that seamlessly combines the culture of that time what the bible actually says with out changing a word, and good olde fashion common sense as a 'dodge.'

Do you know why I like that so much? because it means you don't have any way of responding to the answer that you thought would stump me, other than a very vain attempt at a broad brush dismissal that does not speak to any of the points I brought up.

Quote:And, if you don’t get any responses…. ? What is a logical human being supposed to assume?
Well, if you did it right, you would have come across the parable of the wise and foolish builder that tells you what you should do, and exactly why your effort failed in the first place.

Quote:I’m guessing, by your definition of mini-miracles, I have about the same amount each week, and why would god bless me with those if I don't believe in him, pray, or any other related activities to that?
So by my definition (which includes an AIDS and A Cancer diagnosis, and subsequent withdrawal of said diagnosis, a couple patents, thriving business that now branches into several different fields, and a ton of other stuff/experiences that I have shared here as well) you have experienced these things too with out God? that's great, but what about direct communication? wouldn't that be considered a mirical as well? After all in Luke 11 you are A/S/K for the Holy spirit a gift Christ promises to anyone who does these things.. How can one receive the Holy Spirit and not be in direct communication with God?


Quote:I agree that I was talking to myself, or just thinking my thoughts were god’s voice… And, how loving of him.

-Regarding your response to the Lev 12:1-5 bible verse. You completely dodged my question. Why does god consider women to be unclean for twice as long if she gives birth to a girl instead of a boy?

This doesn’t answer anything
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The reason given can be classified under three different catagories.
Biological
Social
Spiritual

Biological, none that I am aware.

Social, Males needed to bond with the Father ASAP, so the Father would identify and accept his son. The same with the Mother. (the Father would care for the son while the mother was being purified) The mother's extra time with the daughter would also allow for her bonding.

Spiritual, to be 'Spiritualy clean' means to be as perfect as possible and to be ready to devote one's self to God and the law. To be put side was not a punishment, but a break from the rigors of OT Jewish life.

look at the bold sport, to be considered 'unclean' was a trip away from the riggors of OT jewish life. It was not a punishment it was a break from what amounts to a harsh life of service to the family for a woman. The above does answer your question you just can't admit it. Your mind will not allow you to get past a lable you empower with a negative tag. I have identified that tag as being misreprsenitive of the meaning of that term.

Quote:Here are some options that aren’t dodging the question. 1) God is a dick 2) The people who wrote this story lived in a different time, where many were misogynistic. They were putting words in their version of god’s mouth, probably in order to keep others around them in line with how they wanted things to be.
The above are biased answers to a small minded person who truly wants no knowledge of the time, the people or God. Only the opertunity to poo poo on what he has closed his mind to.
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RE: Oh, You Talk to God, That’s Cool! I Need Some Answers - by Drich - August 20, 2015 at 9:01 am

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