Did Jesus exist?

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And unlike jesus there are some historic records about him

I am still waiting to see them.

Xtians claim there are historical records about their godboy, too.


There aren't.


What there is - and the same is true of islam - is a lot of after-the-fact shit written about them by believers which automatically casts doubt on those writings.

A contemporary source would be a source written while the subject was allegedly alive and commenting on him.

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I'm certainly more inclined to believe in a historical Muhammad than a historical Jesus because of the believability factor. A conquering warlord who started a religion and founded an empire is far more believable than a wandering godman who sat around for 30 years doing nothing

Actually, D-P, I have to disagree with you there. Jesus, in your vision, was a no-account schlub who would not have attracted any attention. But a "conquering warlord" ( with or without a new religion ) would have been of significant interest to the other powers in the area, notably the Byzantines and the Sassanids ( Persians). There were trade routes all through the area. There is simply no way in hell that they could have helped hearing about such developments. And unlike jesus the phony miracle worker a rampaging Arab army would have been seen as important.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassanid_Empire





Besides, you'd think someone would notice the moon splitting in two!