RE: atheism and children
August 22, 2015 at 10:58 am
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2015 at 11:00 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(August 18, 2015 at 4:28 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote:(August 18, 2015 at 2:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think you're having a hard time understanding my views on this because you're not seeing "an embryo" as a human being. You have to understand that I do. So let's take a five year old, for example (whom I'm sure you see as human), and let's say I was his mother. If the both of us got captured by terrorists and as a means to torture me, they held a gun to my head and said "either you kill your five year old, or you both will die." Would it be moral for me to do it? Is it moral to directly kill one innocent person in order to save another?
That's a false analogy.
I think you are missing the point that in an ectopic pregnancy the embryo has to be aborted in order for the mother to survive at all, so if we put this in terms of your analogy it would be more like the terrorist telling the mother "I'm going to kill your kid no matter what, but you have a choice of either taking a cyanide pill or having me flay you alive" and even that doesn't work as a cogent analogy of an ectopic pregnancy.
(BTW, your analogy also equates the doctor treating the woman with the ectopic pregnancy to a terrorist.)
Perhaps you misunderstood the analogy. I am saying that the terrorists would kill both her and her child if she did not kill her child herself. So yes, the child would die regardless. It just depends on whether she does it or not. And if she does, she gets to live. If not, she dies right along with her kid.
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