Quote:Putting aside the burden of proof being on the one who would say Jesus existed, how did you feel about my Bible references that suggest he didn't?
You mean this one?
Quote:Jesus was one of many doom criers and Jewish faction leaders who apparently was so insignificant that no one noticed him in his time. He waited about 30 years before doing anything and then went about performing miracles that no one paid any attention to. He founded a ministry that "spread like wildfire" into the surrounding provinces, and yet failed to get a mention by theologians and philosophers of the time (including Philo). He wrote nothing of his own teachings and nothing was written about him for at least 40 years. Then, generations later, he became the towering icon of numerous splinter factions, some of who believed he never existed in the flesh (see 1John 4:1-3 and 2John 1:7).
Interesting. He was a carpenter for the 30 years He was not doing anything. Well we dont have complete historical records of all the theologians and philosophers of His time, perhaps He did get a mention, but that is speculation.
I wouldnt say generations later, I would say several weeks later, not decades. Remember, oral tradition was important back then.
Paul has to remind the Corinthains that Jesus rose from the dead! So although it is interesting that early Christians had a hard time believing Jesus did not exist in the flesh, its not surprising. We have to remember there was a lot of Mysticism back then, so I dont think that is strong evidence to say that Jesus did not exist.
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.
You dont hate God, you hate the church game.
"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine
Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
You dont hate God, you hate the church game.
"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine
Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer