RE: Did Jesus exist?
November 2, 2010 at 7:45 pm
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2010 at 7:47 pm by solja247.)
Quote:As for Paul, he flatly denies that Jesus had lived within his lifetime. See 1Cor 15:8.
You know your Bible well but you have to be careful of a few things:
1. Not looking at the actual language (which in this case is Greek)
2. Not understanding the context
3. Proof texting
Quote:As of one born out of due time - The apostle considers himself as coming after the time in which Jesus Christ personally conversed with his disciples; and that, therefore, to see him at all, he must see him in this extraordinary way. Some have entered into a very disgusting detail on the figure used here by the apostle. The words, ὡσπερει τῳ εκτρωματι, signify not merely one born out of due time, but one born before his time; and consequently, not bidding fair for vigor, usefulness, or long life. But it is likely that the apostle had a different meaning; and that he refers to the original institution of the twelve apostles, in the rank of whom he never stood, being appointed not to fill up a place among the twelve, but as an extra and additional apostle. Rosenmuller says that those who were beyond the number of twelve senators were termed abortivi, abortives; and refers to Suetonius in Octavio, cap. 35. I have examined the place, but find no such epithet. According to Suetonius, in that place, they were called orcini - persons who had assumed the senatorial dignity after the death of Julius Caesar, pretending that they had derived that honor from him.
http://biblecommenter.com/1_corinthians/15-8.htm
Quote:Anything I give you you will simply ignore because you want to read it in a fucking encyclopedia.
Why not read The Jesus Puzzle by Earl Doherty?
Or, if entire books are too much for you, here's a web site.
I will read that book, if you read a 'credible' book written by fifty scienctists (who mostly have PhDs) why they reject evolution.
http://www.amazon.com/Six-Days-Scientist...0890513414
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.
You dont hate God, you hate the church game.
"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine
Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
You dont hate God, you hate the church game.
"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine
Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer