(August 27, 2015 at 8:49 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:(August 27, 2015 at 7:10 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: quote='abaris' pid='1033263' dateline='1440716776']
But more and more theologians are explaining Hell more as a state of being than an actual, physical "place" with fire and little guys running around with pitch forks lol.
Now that is some good theology. Talk of hell as a place was allegorical. Just curious, if it turns out that heaven is also just a state of mind, something you can only experience while you have a mind and a brain to keep it in, would that still make belief worth it? I want to say it can, but obviously as soon as your theology becomes this good you are perilously close to losing faith in God. For that matter, perhaps the idea of God is also allegorical but likewise a useful model for the way our conscious minds relate to the older, largely unconscious mind which gives rise to us.
What I meant is that it can be best described as a state of being, but really, it's just because it's a whole other dimension that we probably can't even understand. But yes, more closely described as a state of being, vs a physical place, and the same goes for Heaven. That's what I believe anyway.

Yes, I think it's always "worth" it to believe in whatever ends up being the truth, whether there is any sort of "reward" or not.
Hmm, that's a very interesting theory, Whateverist. Is it Buddhist? It's interesting, and reminds me of that post you put on my facebook showing different perceptions of the same truth. The belief in God as an actual supreme being is fundamental to Christianity though, so one would have to be of a different faith to believe that. Our perception of what Hell is like, on the other hand, leaves room for a lot of flexibility, except that it's definitely not good and it's Godless lol.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh