(August 29, 2015 at 12:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: That which is being constantly created with God the light/good/beautiful/glorious/honorable/purity aspect of it is true existence, while the non-existence with polar opposite is the darkness, and it's through power of ignorance.
Why? What makes you think this is true?
(August 29, 2015 at 12:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: The soul is equipped with forces of reason (light) and forces of ignorance (darkness/uncleanness). It's a constant battle. You can witness this battle within yourself.
Same as above. Why? What makes you think that there are "forces of light" and "forces of darkness"? What are they? How do you prove they actually exist and they are not an abstraction you use to make sense of the way you behave?
(August 29, 2015 at 12:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: There is 72 forces of reason in summary and 72 forces of ignorance, I can tell you them according to hadiths of our Imams, but I am not going to here, because it will bore you.
You're right in saying it would have bored me, but seriously, you can have as many "forces" as you like, but if you don't prove the actual existence of any of them then everything you are saying becomes meaningless word salad.
(August 29, 2015 at 12:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: It's what chooses between good and evil, and it's what inherits praiseworthy actions or condemned actions, increasing in value or in devalue, in positive travel towards God or negative travel away from God.
If you added an in, I'd think I was talking to Rik... But joking aside, why can't you provide any evidence for anything you assert?
(August 29, 2015 at 12:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: We can talk endlessly about but it's spiritual in the sense it's not found in space or four dimensions, but it takes on parable forms and the next world is a manifestation of it's actions, whether good or evil, and we are creating a world within us. Every time we see sin, we open portals of uncleannness that Satanic forces can attack us with and when we do good deeds, we open portals in which obedient spirits can help us with (Angels, Prophets, Imams).
More unsupported assertions. Even if it is "spiritual", where is the evidence that anything spiritual exists? What are those spirits? How can you reliably tell me you're not deceiving yourself when you talk about them?
Can't our morality be explained in evolutionary terms, seeing as humans have evolved as social animals?
(August 29, 2015 at 12:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: The spiritual kingdom and the true nature of our existence with respect to that, is that of an 7 earths with 7 heavens, that of 7 stages, with 6 days, and the last being an endless none ending day that will not be completed ever but is the ever last reward we are meant for.
From God's earth everything grows, his water descends and gives life to everything...and the pure blessed water is the nature we all originated upon and this is something we can spiritually see.
The soul like the brain cannot be summarized in a few sentences and you understand at all. It's an endless knowledge, and there is in it a connection to God.
Suuure, but it would be nice if in just a few sentences you could throw in just a little amount of evidence to support such a ridiculous amount of assertions.
In Italian, we'd say that "you're building castles in the air".
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."