(November 5, 2010 at 6:17 am)solja247 Wrote: Whether you like it or not. PHILOSOPHICALLY, there had to be an uncaused cause, it would go like this, the universe had a cause, that cause had a cause, that cause had a cause x infinity. To make sense we have to say there was an uncaused cause.
I think this is a case of middle world logic. This is not an attack against your comments by the way, its a problem we all suffer from. We expect things to behave and work in certain ways because we live in middle world. If you move to little world (ie: quantum level) then things start to act very strange. If you move to big world (ie: universe or beyond sized) then you probably also cannot apply middle world logic either.
Until we have a real idea how big world logic works then everything is pure speculation.
Maybe it is circular. The universe is because the universe is because the ..... etc. This was nicely done in one Issac Asimov story (i think) where the last living entity at the end of the universe starts a new universe with the phrase "let there be light".
A finite number of monkeys with a finite number of typewriters and a finite amount of time could eventually reproduce 4chan.
