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Why Atheism instead of agnosticism of some sort
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RE: Why Atheism instead of agnosticism of some sort
Here's how I would phrase it. Atheism is a lack of a belief in a deity. Theism is the belief in a deity that is active in the world. Deism is the belief in an uncaused cause sort of god that left the universe to work like clockwork ( for the record most of the founding fathers were deists. Being a deist back then was like being an atheist today in a sense. ). Those are statements of BELIEF.

Agnostic is not a statement of belief, but an epistemological statement. That's a statement about what you KNOW or CAN know ( or at least think you can know ). One could believe that their knowledge is not 100% certain ( agnostic ) but still believe in God and be a theist. One can also be an atheist and an agnostic.

Richard Dawkins has a scale in the God Delusion about belief, with Gnostic theists ( not the old sect, I mean, as in knowing ) being number one and gnostic atheists at 7. Everything in between is technically some variety of agnostic.
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Why Atheism instead of agnosticism of some sort - by Ervin - November 4, 2010 at 11:38 pm
RE: Why Atheism instead of agnosticism of some sort - by The Skeptic - November 5, 2010 at 11:39 am

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